kookoo

If true, the Carrera S will eclipse the normal Turbo - with the Turbo S continuing on with its "benchmark" status. I've wrestled with NA or FI when replacing my 13 C4S.. guess Porsche has made that decision for me. New quandry.. GT3 or not?

StudGarden

Probably the "turbo" will get 530 up from 520. I think they confused themselves. The "regular" S will be well under 530hp I'd think.

disden

I agree, I just can't imagine they would make such a massive hp gain as a mid-cycle update. My guess is 420hp for the S. If not, boy did I just buy my 2015 Turbo at the wrong time!

Scorponok

This is just poor journalism designed to sell ads.

There is no way a C2S will exceed 500HP within the next 10 "Porsche years". I suppose anything is possible but it wouldn't follow, I don't know, the last 50 years of trends or so.

porsche9xx

We are all guessing here but Porsche has never made such a huge jump historically so I cant imagine they would make one now. They just introduced a GTS model with 430Hp if they do go FI for '16 I think they would probably end up somewhere near 410-415hp for the S. I don't think they want a bunch of customers who paid $180K plus on a TT upset - they want those guys to come back and get the next better version but I think Porsche really cares about their reputation above all.

AWW100

Don't think Porsche will make an engine switch in the mid of a model. They haven't recouped the returns of their R&D expenses on this flat six engine. Powertrain R&D expense is one of the top expenses in a car development.

MarcusG

The first thought after reading information like this is so out of the ordinary for any manufacturer let alone Porsche, it doesn't make sense.

I thought to myself who is this schiester who wrote the piece? I never heard of him so I Googled him. Georg Kacher apparently is a very well respected auto journalist for may years. With that said, I doubt a journalist like this would just pull some story out of his a** and make this up.

For crying out loud, if the info has even a shred of truth there would be brand revolt from the current 991 GT3 and Turbo customers. Imagine some guy in his Carrera S with PDK blows past you on the highway? One year model difference. WTF again.

It sounds like a fluff piece but perhaps there is more truth in the article than we want to believe. Did anyone see that supposed 991.2 turbo cab and coupe Nurburgring video from the other day? Perhaps thats a proto engine in those cars. Those turbos were driving past other cars and walking away from a gold M car like they were standing still. Epic.

More possibility of a turbo 991.2 or whatever a true 2016 model for release next year this time. Not a 2015. Not a chance.


I'm just saying.

VIC_50th

Kacher is a very well-respected journalist, he has been around for a long time, has good insight into the German manufacturers and the market. I have not read the article yet, but if he said 530 hp for the 911S, it would be a mistake, for sure - likely an editorial "oversight" (i.e. accidentally on purpose), not likely a Kacher mistake.
Just read the link - I don't believe it - 400 hp for the base model, maybe - but 530 for the S is crazy for most of the reasons stated above. 430 maybe and perhaps big torque, but not 530 hp.

Key Left

Sorry to spoil your parade but 991.2 is merely a cosmetic face lift only.

Bacura

I had a shift indicator on my 1988 Carrera. Hated it. I put a black piece of tape over it.

jason952

Usually in the last couple of cycles, the next CS has about what the last GTS had and hp ratings trickle down from there. So a 991.2 CS will be about 430, no more

neil.schneider

Imo I can't see it being 430 hp either. Than you would have all the power kit, GTS, and 50th anniversary people up in arms. My guess is 415 to 420.

997CS4

This could very well be true, but as a 2016 model. Mercedes is coming out with what they market as a 911 killer: AMG GT. It has 462 hp and 503 in S version with twin turbo V8.

lunarx

I doubt Porsche would worry about old owners getting "up in arms" as they are more worried about gaining new sales.
Another slow S won't cut it.

It makes sense to make the Base a solid car and then take the S upmarket and give it a low 3 sec 0-60 time, to compete with its very powerfull rivals.
Anything less is detuning the engine and opening the door for aftermarket tuners to capitalize.

You will pay dearly for the HP bump in a new S, so its not like its anything to get "up in arms" about.

They will need to regroup on the "Turbo" models, but they will be a significant bump too.
If Porsche intentionally under realized the potential of a turbocharged engine, I would be a lot more dissapointed about that.

We by Porsche for the engineering achivement so why should they hold back on what they can achieve with turbocharging.

jason952

one valid idea there...prices on turbo and turbo are really up there now and that could leave room for the CS to jump up also...just believe that is less likely than a continued slow bump....we are probably getting to the limits of NA output per liter...at least for a reliable, daily car (unlike a current 458-which is also going turbo next time out-)