anyone else think more GT3RS will come after aug vacation
07-29-2015, 09:20 PM
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anyone else think more GT3RS will come after aug vacation
Im hopeful that after the usual August vacation, that PAG will give us more GTRS allocations. -fingers crossed
07-29-2015, 09:32 PM
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07-29-2015, 09:42 PM
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I am going to guess the margin on the GT3 RS is one of the highest, other than maybe the turbo. Let me think, I am a major manufacturer, and I want to make more of a lower margin car?
07-29-2015, 10:00 PM
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High margin cars are the Macan, Panamera and Cayenne (probably in that order).
If we're talking the 911 model line, then the base Carrera would have the highest margin.
07-29-2015, 10:01 PM
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There will be a second collective tranche of allocations to US dealers in late Winter / early Spring 2016.
Doesn't mean that there won't be trickles and drip-drip-drip allocations in the interim.
Doesn't mean that there won't be trickles and drip-drip-drip allocations in the interim.
07-29-2015, 10:16 PM
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I'm pretty certain that another wave of allocations is coming, and they'll probably keep producing them until "almost" everyone that wants one, gets one. Below is a snippet from the recent Ferrari prospectus. I think Porsche works in the same way with their GT cars, with more elasticity on the volume targets.
----- Ferrari prospectus statement....
In general, our shipments do not vary based on changes in demand. Rather, we tend to ship based on volume targets established under our low volume strategy. As part of this strategy, we seek to manage waiting lists in the various markets in which we operate to respond appropriately to relative levels of demand while being sensitive to local client expectations in those markets. In certain markets, we believe that waiting lists have promoted our products’ sense of exclusivity; accordingly we monitor and manage such waiting lists to maintain such exclusivity while ensuring that we do not jeopardize client satisfaction.
----- Ferrari prospectus statement....
In general, our shipments do not vary based on changes in demand. Rather, we tend to ship based on volume targets established under our low volume strategy. As part of this strategy, we seek to manage waiting lists in the various markets in which we operate to respond appropriately to relative levels of demand while being sensitive to local client expectations in those markets. In certain markets, we believe that waiting lists have promoted our products’ sense of exclusivity; accordingly we monitor and manage such waiting lists to maintain such exclusivity while ensuring that we do not jeopardize client satisfaction.
07-29-2015, 10:23 PM
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Managing expectations: no PTS, no custom anything, no purple, just std colors and LO. That you can bet on!
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07-29-2015, 10:24 PM
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PAG is still struggling with scheduling current allocations right now - way too hard to read anything at the moment. My PTS color was loaded and accepted on May 28th and still not back to V200+ with a delivery date determined.
07-29-2015, 10:28 PM
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Is this confirmed? I would think that most models are very close in margin.
07-29-2015, 10:41 PM
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The growth of Porsches SUV segment has pressured margins.
From a WSJ article:
"But it does pay a price for the growth of its SUVs, whose margins are thinner.
Porsche’s profit margin slipped to 15.8% in 2014 from 18% the year before—in part because of the growth in the share of SUVs in its sales.
“It is a fact that we earn less on the Macan,” says Mr. Müller."
From a WSJ article:
"But it does pay a price for the growth of its SUVs, whose margins are thinner.
Porsche’s profit margin slipped to 15.8% in 2014 from 18% the year before—in part because of the growth in the share of SUVs in its sales.
“It is a fact that we earn less on the Macan,” says Mr. Müller."
07-29-2015, 11:04 PM
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The growth of Porsches SUV segment has pressured margins.
From a WSJ article:
"But it does pay a price for the growth of its SUVs, whose margins are thinner.
Porsche’s profit margin slipped to 15.8% in 2014 from 18% the year before—in part because of the growth in the share of SUVs in its sales.
“It is a fact that we earn less on the Macan,” says Mr. Müller."
From a WSJ article:
"But it does pay a price for the growth of its SUVs, whose margins are thinner.
Porsche’s profit margin slipped to 15.8% in 2014 from 18% the year before—in part because of the growth in the share of SUVs in its sales.
“It is a fact that we earn less on the Macan,” says Mr. Müller."
And depending on how one calculates the R&D costs, one could make an argument that the 911 is the highest net margin car of all time given that it's design is at best evolutionary, and rarely ever completely revolutionary.
But the SUVs from Porsche have one advantage that the Pannys and 911 do not. They get to share architecture and parts across company lines, esp. with the Audi and VW SUVs.
07-29-2015, 11:20 PM
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For my GT3, it took me around 16 months, from looking for an allocation and delivery. This is the longest time I looked for a car.
I am a nobody, but I know this fact, as long as you have the money, and want an RS, you(I)will get one.
I am not too worried right now, lets say compared to when I was looking for a GT3. And if I dont get one, my GT3 is more than enough to get me to the grocery and occasionally make my hair on fire.
Otherwise, my SUV can do the rest.
So PCNA, you can play all the games you want, but your tricks are for new comers. The rest of us who have been there, you know what I mean.
Congrats to those who have a car on order/on the way.
I am a nobody, but I know this fact, as long as you have the money, and want an RS, you(I)will get one.
I am not too worried right now, lets say compared to when I was looking for a GT3. And if I dont get one, my GT3 is more than enough to get me to the grocery and occasionally make my hair on fire.
Otherwise, my SUV can do the rest.
So PCNA, you can play all the games you want, but your tricks are for new comers. The rest of us who have been there, you know what I mean.
Congrats to those who have a car on order/on the way.
07-29-2015, 11:24 PM
#14
Watch, they'll have 20-40 "special" PTS allocations like they did with the GT3 that come out of nowhere and they'll screw all you guys trying to get PTS...the Porsche way feed more of a frenzy (over $100k MSRP for those cars from our favorite stealerships). 
07-29-2015, 11:26 PM
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Those are cumulative numbers for the company as a whole, not on a per-car basis, I believe.
And depending on how one calculates the R&D costs, one could make an argument that the 911 is the highest net margin car of all time given that it's design is at best evolutionary, and rarely ever completely revolutionary.
But the SUVs from Porsche have one advantage that the Pannys and 911 do not. They get to share architecture and parts across company lines, esp. with the Audi and VW SUVs.
And depending on how one calculates the R&D costs, one could make an argument that the 911 is the highest net margin car of all time given that it's design is at best evolutionary, and rarely ever completely revolutionary.
But the SUVs from Porsche have one advantage that the Pannys and 911 do not. They get to share architecture and parts across company lines, esp. with the Audi and VW SUVs.