OT: Only LaFerrari for sale second hand $5AMM!
07-29-2015, 04:24 PM
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Wait a moment.
Was the LaF a Ferrari list car meaning you had to have been on their list of preferred customer's to buy it? Or did Ferrari just allocate the LaF to dealership's and let the dealership charge whatever price over the suggested MSRP.
Meh depends on what you like, some folks like plain milk, some like chocolate milk while other's like strawberry milk. Just like the painting analogy. I like the Pagani more so than the LaF - I'm not saying it's a better looking car. I can accept we are all different and have different taste.
A little off topic but about 30 years on the Ferrari F40, to me, looks dated due to the method's and technology that were available for the time for design. And hence forth the Compound form's and curve's that have come out of Pinninfarina and Scaglietta since have really pushed design and form into the future. Even though the LaF was one of the rare examples of a Ferrari's form that was designed in house.
I like the LaF but even if I could buy one at MSRP I would rather have the Huayra. Especially if the euro keeps on falling like it has. When you buy a Pagani they only accept Euro's. When I found that out - cost about £550K to get the car started then about anouther £500K or so when it is finished. Then finally almost £100K at delivery. When I founf those numbers out the Euro was about $1.20. When I last looked the other week the euro was about $1.08.
Was the LaF a Ferrari list car meaning you had to have been on their list of preferred customer's to buy it? Or did Ferrari just allocate the LaF to dealership's and let the dealership charge whatever price over the suggested MSRP.
Meh depends on what you like, some folks like plain milk, some like chocolate milk while other's like strawberry milk. Just like the painting analogy. I like the Pagani more so than the LaF - I'm not saying it's a better looking car. I can accept we are all different and have different taste.
A little off topic but about 30 years on the Ferrari F40, to me, looks dated due to the method's and technology that were available for the time for design. And hence forth the Compound form's and curve's that have come out of Pinninfarina and Scaglietta since have really pushed design and form into the future. Even though the LaF was one of the rare examples of a Ferrari's form that was designed in house.
I like the LaF but even if I could buy one at MSRP I would rather have the Huayra. Especially if the euro keeps on falling like it has. When you buy a Pagani they only accept Euro's. When I found that out - cost about £550K to get the car started then about anouther £500K or so when it is finished. Then finally almost £100K at delivery. When I founf those numbers out the Euro was about $1.20. When I last looked the other week the euro was about $1.08.
07-29-2015, 04:26 PM
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Just to prove that art is a Scam. I would rather pay as much for some super clever Rube Goldberg contraption! At least that would take thought and cleverness. Not some butthole saying that "oh this blue painting is the bee's knee's"! Much of abstract art like that is a scam and the stuff Salvador Sally was putting out before he dies he wasn't even trying because head had grown so large no one knew where reality started and ended...
I mean, I love art, I do. But, I could make that exact same piece in a few hours for less than $1,000.
07-29-2015, 05:07 PM
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Cars are easier to understand but the value principles in art are much the same. I just missed on this $43.8M Newman painting, which is fine as it wasn't a good match for Voodoo Blue anyways.
07-29-2015, 05:10 PM
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07-29-2015, 07:32 PM
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Plus, that few mil could buy you another 918 Spyder to park next to your LaF.
07-29-2015, 08:13 PM
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07-29-2015, 08:14 PM
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The LaF went to Ferrari's VIP's only. Steve Wynn is one such individual (he also happens to own Penske Wynn Ferrari in Las Vegas, right next to his casinos). Usually, you lose your VIP status if you flip these cars within the first year. Wynn is mostly untouchable by Ferrari, and he doesn't care either... probably doesn't need to care.
Ferrari actually prohibits dealers from selling new / untitled cars above MSRP. That's why they've devised their sneaky plan of having their loyal clients buy new cars, drive them for a few hundred miles, trade them in for MSRP, and then the dealer can tack on a "market adjustment" when selling it as a pre-owned / CPO vehicle.
Ferrari actually prohibits dealers from selling new / untitled cars above MSRP. That's why they've devised their sneaky plan of having their loyal clients buy new cars, drive them for a few hundred miles, trade them in for MSRP, and then the dealer can tack on a "market adjustment" when selling it as a pre-owned / CPO vehicle.
So what are they going to do with Wynn, pull his dealership right's? Many more people slash groups would be more than happy to own the right's to sell Ferrari's in Vegas. Wasn't that dealership in his Casino?
On another note the 918s have stabilized around $1.3mm and $1.6MM - thats with about a 20% trimmed mean.
07-29-2015, 10:07 PM
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Ferrari should adopt what Lexus did with their super car the LFA - a two year lease first then Purchase to avoid such shinanigans in the future.
So what are they going to do with Wynn, pull his dealership right's? Many more people slash groups would be more than happy to own the right's to sell Ferrari's in Vegas. Wasn't that dealership in his Casino?
On another note the 918s have stabilized around $1.3mm and $1.6MM - thats with about a 20% trimmed mean.
So what are they going to do with Wynn, pull his dealership right's? Many more people slash groups would be more than happy to own the right's to sell Ferrari's in Vegas. Wasn't that dealership in his Casino?
On another note the 918s have stabilized around $1.3mm and $1.6MM - thats with about a 20% trimmed mean.
This is so that they can build 50-100 more if they wanted.
(The common wisdom amongst Ferrari enthusiasts is that they did this with the Enzo.)
07-30-2015, 03:13 AM
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I think I read somewhere that over 500 billionaires reside in the USA alone.
Anyone of them buying this Laf for $5 mil, is like you or I walking into a candy store, and paying .03 for a skittle, when it's only worth .01.
07-30-2015, 03:30 AM
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The LaF went to Ferrari's VIP's only. Steve Wynn is one such individual (he also happens to own Penske Wynn Ferrari in Las Vegas, right next to his casinos). Usually, you lose your VIP status if you flip these cars within the first year. Wynn is mostly untouchable by Ferrari, and he doesn't care either... probably doesn't need to care.
Ferrari actually prohibits dealers from selling new / untitled cars above MSRP. That's why they've devised their sneaky plan of having their loyal clients buy new cars, drive them for a few hundred miles, trade them in for MSRP, and then the dealer can tack on a "market adjustment" when selling it as a pre-owned / CPO vehicle.
Ferrari actually prohibits dealers from selling new / untitled cars above MSRP. That's why they've devised their sneaky plan of having their loyal clients buy new cars, drive them for a few hundred miles, trade them in for MSRP, and then the dealer can tack on a "market adjustment" when selling it as a pre-owned / CPO vehicle.
Lexus changed their policy on the LFA. It ended up a 1 (or 2?) year First Right of Refusal, but they did not require a lease.
Ferrari doesn't number their cars. They're all 1 of 499.
This is so that they can build 50-100 more if they wanted. (The common wisdom amongst Ferrari enthusiasts is that they did this with the Enzo.)
Ferrari doesn't number their cars. They're all 1 of 499.
This is so that they can build 50-100 more if they wanted.
(The common wisdom amongst Ferrari enthusiasts is that they did this with the Enzo.)Maybe a few of us RL members can team up and open a Porsche dealership and be the RL Porsche provider....