2016 GT3 RS
#31
Hi
I agreed to buy for $60K over (PTS Black/Black Silver).
Try & get a GT3RS-PERIOD! I don't think any of those commenting aRE GETTING 1!
Since I agreed-my dealer had someone call to flip for $80K over-the dealer called him back with buyers-BUT SELLER GOT $100K over!
Watch where it's at when they start delivering in October!
AND PTS program canceled as Porsch overwhelmed at paint shop!
My reasoning...all aspirated super cars being phased out-replacing with Turbos (Ferrari, Porsche, etc).
New super cars coming in at much higher #'s...ex. New Ford GT-$500,000!
Porsche Turbos high production-GT3 RS-heavy costs to build-Carbon Fiber, Magnesium.
I think it's the best bang for the buck super car.
(Can't do a Vette... Unless 69' or prior!)
😀😀😀😉
I agreed to buy for $60K over (PTS Black/Black Silver).
Try & get a GT3RS-PERIOD! I don't think any of those commenting aRE GETTING 1!
Since I agreed-my dealer had someone call to flip for $80K over-the dealer called him back with buyers-BUT SELLER GOT $100K over!
Watch where it's at when they start delivering in October!
AND PTS program canceled as Porsch overwhelmed at paint shop!
My reasoning...all aspirated super cars being phased out-replacing with Turbos (Ferrari, Porsche, etc).
New super cars coming in at much higher #'s...ex. New Ford GT-$500,000!
Porsche Turbos high production-GT3 RS-heavy costs to build-Carbon Fiber, Magnesium.
I think it's the best bang for the buck super car.
(Can't do a Vette... Unless 69' or prior!)
😀😀😀😉
#32
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Congrats.
Enjoy the car in good health.
#YouOnlyLiveOnce
Enjoy the car in good health.
#YouOnlyLiveOnce
Last edited by ipse dixit; 07-31-2015 at 11:55 PM.
#33
Do it! All the respondents do not & cannot get any longer...for sticker!
I'm paying $60K over- with options-close to $300,000. PTS Black, and PTS program now canceled-as Porsche not producing any longer!
My dealer was offered another GT3 for $80K over-when he called back-the person already took $100,000 over!
Think about it-Porsche, Ferrari, etc., all being forced to squeeze more from engines-economics forcing normal aspirated into only turbo'...and, cost to produce...magnesium, carbon fiber, engineering demands-costs!
2016 Vehicles pulling these super cars up...New Ford GT $500,000?!
Car will not go down.
I'm paying $60K over- with options-close to $300,000. PTS Black, and PTS program now canceled-as Porsche not producing any longer!
My dealer was offered another GT3 for $80K over-when he called back-the person already took $100,000 over!
Think about it-Porsche, Ferrari, etc., all being forced to squeeze more from engines-economics forcing normal aspirated into only turbo'...and, cost to produce...magnesium, carbon fiber, engineering demands-costs!
2016 Vehicles pulling these super cars up...New Ford GT $500,000?!
Car will not go down.
#35
Porsche will make more cars if you can't be patient. 50K over MSRP is cost of your patience problem ..... been there, I understand the issue well.
#36
Do it! All the respondents do not & cannot get any longer...for sticker!
I'm paying $60K over- with options-close to $300,000. PTS Black, and PTS program now canceled-as Porsche not producing any longer!
My dealer was offered another GT3 for $80K over-when he called back-the person already took $100,000 over!
Think about it-Porsche, Ferrari, etc., all being forced to squeeze more from engines-economics forcing normal aspirated into only turbo'...and, cost to produce...magnesium, carbon fiber, engineering demands-costs!
2016 Vehicles pulling these super cars up...New Ford GT $500,000?!
Car will not go down.
I'm paying $60K over- with options-close to $300,000. PTS Black, and PTS program now canceled-as Porsche not producing any longer!
My dealer was offered another GT3 for $80K over-when he called back-the person already took $100,000 over!
Think about it-Porsche, Ferrari, etc., all being forced to squeeze more from engines-economics forcing normal aspirated into only turbo'...and, cost to produce...magnesium, carbon fiber, engineering demands-costs!
2016 Vehicles pulling these super cars up...New Ford GT $500,000?!
Car will not go down.
#37
Want to bet it will? Yes yes, Porsche will make no more RS N/A cars and this is the last one and no more allocations....keep telling yourself that. Sorry but the 991.2RS will have over 500hp and be a little better than this RS. Watch, a lot of 991.1RS owners will want to get it when it comes out in 2-3 years. I have something better than a 991.1RS....a 1 of 1 PTS 997.2 RS last manual RS. I might be willing to pay $15k-$20k but I'm not willing to pay anymore than that because I work way too damn hard for the money that I have. If I'm going to pay close to $250k for a car it's going to be a Ferrari or Lambo. I think I'll live not having this new RS for a few years and the extra money that it'd take to buy it (I'll keep trading options with it and turn it into enough to buy the next RS).
#38
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^^ I wouldn't bet either way.
The man has a point. I don't want a Fiat it Lambo. The RS is much more usable.
Pricing never going down? I don't know maybe? The new models are shooting up in price fast! I see depreciation slowing down even on free fallers like Mercedes..
If $200k is the new $100K in 1 model run, who's to say that it won't happen again?
2 years ago Porsche could not move 900 918's at $950k. Now they are 1.5m
So much money and nowhere to put it. Guys not knowing anything about cars are collectors now..
Seen real estate? Above 2007 peak. Rent, same.
I can see the market not imploding long enough for these cars to never go down.
No matter what inflation number the Feds invent...
I'm starting a stealership. The only market I see not topped out yet.
The man has a point. I don't want a Fiat it Lambo. The RS is much more usable.
Pricing never going down? I don't know maybe? The new models are shooting up in price fast! I see depreciation slowing down even on free fallers like Mercedes..
If $200k is the new $100K in 1 model run, who's to say that it won't happen again?
2 years ago Porsche could not move 900 918's at $950k. Now they are 1.5m
So much money and nowhere to put it. Guys not knowing anything about cars are collectors now..
Seen real estate? Above 2007 peak. Rent, same.
I can see the market not imploding long enough for these cars to never go down.
No matter what inflation number the Feds invent...
I'm starting a stealership. The only market I see not topped out yet.
#39
^^ I wouldn't bet either way.
The man has a point. I don't want a Fiat it Lambo. The RS is much more usable.
Pricing never going down? I don't know maybe? The new models are shooting up in price fast! I see depreciation slowing down even on free fallers like Mercedes..
If $200k is the new $100K in 1 model run, who's to say that it won't happen again?
2 years ago Porsche could not move 900 918's at $950k. Now they are 1.5m
So much money and nowhere to put it. Guys not knowing anything about cars are collectors now..
Seen real estate? Above 2007 peak. Rent, same.
I can see the market not imploding long enough for these cars to never go down.
No matter what inflation number the Feds invent...
I'm starting a stealership. The only market I see not topped out yet.
The man has a point. I don't want a Fiat it Lambo. The RS is much more usable.
Pricing never going down? I don't know maybe? The new models are shooting up in price fast! I see depreciation slowing down even on free fallers like Mercedes..
If $200k is the new $100K in 1 model run, who's to say that it won't happen again?
2 years ago Porsche could not move 900 918's at $950k. Now they are 1.5m
So much money and nowhere to put it. Guys not knowing anything about cars are collectors now..
Seen real estate? Above 2007 peak. Rent, same.
I can see the market not imploding long enough for these cars to never go down.
No matter what inflation number the Feds invent...
I'm starting a stealership. The only market I see not topped out yet.
#41
When emotions has lots of people make irrational decision you are at or new the top of the market....I remember seeing this back in 2005-2006 with real estate. I remember hearing that real estate NEVER goes down back then. There will be another recession and watch out if the stock market and real estate bubble in China deflate. Just sayin....
I posted it in another thread, but looking at '73 RS returns from 1973 to 2008 compared to the S&P 500 from '73 to 2008 it way outperformed the S&P based on 2008 Auction values which were the low. Not to mention that it's something like a 5x better return on the RS vs the S&P500 today. I don't have the figures in front of me, but you get the idea. If you're thinking very long-term, the right limited run car values across pretty much every marque have outperformed the stock market.
#42
There will always be cycles, but what brings you more joy - watching your stock portfolio fall by 30% or driving your RS around that has also fallen by 30%? Even if the RS has fallen by 50% getting in it and driving it is sure going to be more fun than waiting for stock prices to improve...
I posted it in another thread, but looking at '73 RS returns from 1973 to 2008 compared to the S&P 500 from '73 to 2008 it way outperformed the S&P based on 2008 Auction values which were the low. Not to mention that it's something like a 5x better return on the RS vs the S&P500 today. I don't have the figures in front of me, but you get the idea. If you're thinking very long-term, the right limited run car values across pretty much every marque have outperformed the stock market.
I posted it in another thread, but looking at '73 RS returns from 1973 to 2008 compared to the S&P 500 from '73 to 2008 it way outperformed the S&P based on 2008 Auction values which were the low. Not to mention that it's something like a 5x better return on the RS vs the S&P500 today. I don't have the figures in front of me, but you get the idea. If you're thinking very long-term, the right limited run car values across pretty much every marque have outperformed the stock market.
You're correct there sir! Just have to get the right car, and I would concur the GT3 is the right one to get if you can nap one. Heck 2014's GT3 are still going for MSRP, and PTS cars are selling over MSRP.
#43
Last few big drops in market have been about 10 year increments....87 crash - 98 russian crisis- 08 ...
Wouldn't be surprised if we get a major pull back in the next 1-3 years -
Wouldn't be surprised if we get a major pull back in the next 1-3 years -
#44
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^^ Logic says expect pull back.
But there is sooo much cash on the side lines this time it's hard to see that not jumping in..
I'm starting to doubt a pull back soon, weakening yes, but the ravine has been postponed a few more years?.
But there is sooo much cash on the side lines this time it's hard to see that not jumping in..
I'm starting to doubt a pull back soon, weakening yes, but the ravine has been postponed a few more years?.
#45
I'm trying to save a lot of cash now, so when the market tanks (and it will), I will buy all the toys that I previously wanted for a big discount.