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Old 05-29-2015, 09:54 PM
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I have owned my '11 458 for 3 years. A great car. I would rather have it than any 911. You can buy a great color less than 5k miles 2011 for 200k. YMMV
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Originally Posted by carcommander
I have owned my '11 458 for 3 years. A great car. I would rather have it than any 911. You can buy a great color less than 5k miles 2011 for 200k. YMMV
I thought you were recently trying to sell it
Old 05-29-2015, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by carcommander
I have owned my '11 458 for 3 years. A great car. I would rather have it than any 911. You can buy a great color less than 5k miles 2011 for 200k. YMMV
Gorgeous. Compared to 458 interiors, the Porsche interiors are quite pedestrian. I foresee a more emotional/visceral driving experience over a 911.
Old 05-29-2015, 10:55 PM
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Imo its not worth the trade at this point, 458 prices will continue to go down even more. However if you cant get this out of your head then i strongly suggest finding one with race seats as the standard seats sit to high.

Heres my spider and gt3 sitting side by side

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Enjoy what you have until it's gone: in the GT3 and drive it as it was designed to do.
While you enjoy yours, the F cars are depreciating substantially. Just an idea.
Old 05-29-2015, 11:15 PM
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A lot of the same arguments on future 458 depreciation due to the 488 arrival apply to the GT3 due to the RS arrival. The 458 is much deeper into the switching out when we're just seeing it starting in the GT3. There are 169 458s already listed on dupont at the moment, I suspect prices are very negotiable.

Selling the GT3 at peak value and buying a 458 at a lower end of the curve doesn't seem like a horrible trade to me. Regardless, buy whichever one puts a bigger smile on your face
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Can the 458 handle heavy track abuse? No doubt great car and the interiors are truly amazing but do we really know what kind of abuse they can really tolerate?
Old 05-30-2015, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by race7117
Can the 458 handle heavy track abuse? No doubt great car and the interiors are truly amazing but do we really know what kind of abuse they can really tolerate?
Compared to what? 997? Not too hard IME.
Old 05-30-2015, 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by rockitman
Besides the obvious HP difference and stripped down, lightened Speciale, how does the Italia compare as a predominantly street use car with occasional track days ? TIA....
I'm looking at a '14 Italia in Nero...900+ miles. How's the listed price ?
What is a reasonable offer trading my GT3 in with under 1000 miles ?
http://www.wideworldferrarimaserati....67NFAXE0198694
i had the same dilemma you having now. i solved it by buying one Italia and one Speciale

btw, if you pay close attention to 2014 Speciale cars you can find one that comes with radio delete, navigation delete, bluetooth delete, satellite delete all as one big delete bundle. for 2015 Speciale you don't have ability to delete all that junk...
Old 05-30-2015, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by race7117
Can the 458 handle heavy track abuse? No doubt great car and the interiors are truly amazing but do we really know what kind of abuse they can really tolerate?
The engine, transmission (through gear ratios are different) and chassis are the same as the 458 Challenge car. I've talked to a number of people tracking both and they don't seem to have any issues beyond typical.
Old 05-30-2015, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by race7117
Can the 458 handle heavy track abuse? No doubt great car and the interiors are truly amazing but do we really know what kind of abuse they can really tolerate?
It can handle track abuse, but I'm not sure to the same degree the GT3 can. Brakes are ceramic so will be expensive to replace. The problem I found with my 458 on track was that it had immense body roll. I will also mention that I was in the passenger seat of a 458 that caught fire on the track! Scary.
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Originally Posted by kyrocks
I was in the passenger seat of a 458 that caught fire on the track! Scary.
At least they have equipment at the track to put out the fires.

GT3 fires were on normal roads as I recall
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Originally Posted by ATXGT3
I thought you were recently trying to sell it
One evening for about 2 hours when I had too many cars.
Old 05-30-2015, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by carcommander
One evening for about 2 hours when I had too many cars.
LOL--understood. She's a beauty. Keep her
Old 05-30-2015, 07:48 PM
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Pm me if you are interested in the car. I know the original owner, can put you in touch. Super clean car and hardly driven. Nicely spec'ed with race seats and carbon package. Trading in for Speciale


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