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Old 05-29-2015, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by rockitman
Besides the obvious HP difference and stripped down, lightened Speciale, how does the Italia compare as a predominantly street use car with occasional track days ? TIA....
I'm looking at a '14 Italia in Nero...900+ miles. How's the listed price ?
What is a reasonable offer trading my GT3 in with under 1000 miles ?
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On my 2014 Italia, I have done 9 track days and lots of mountain twisty road drives. The car is rock solid for track use. As long as you can afford the expensive wearables of the ceramic brakes and tires. Total of 29,500 kms on mine and I got it brand new.

Performance difference between speciale and Italia is between 5-10%. But the Italia looks more luxurious and many would say sounds better. Speciale is the ultimate track car if that is your main criteria.

No differences between 14 & 15 model year.

The car does attract the maximum amount of attention and photography from the public. I don't like that but a price you have to pay to own one.

ps: my original tires were the michelins but once worn out I put trofeo Rs on it. The grip with those is endless.
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That's a lot for that car....I haven't driven the Speciale so I can't compare but the 458 is an incredible machine....they have a lot of money to move on that car.....
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Originally Posted by shapiroeric
That's a lot for that car....I haven't driven the Speciale so I can't compare but the 458 is an incredible machine....they have a lot of money to move on that car.....
I agree, probably a $240-$250 car IMO. It does have A LOT of options though. The wheels, seats, full carbon interior etc $$$$
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Originally Posted by Fabspeed Motorsport
I agree, probably a $240-$250 car IMO. It does have A LOT of options though. The wheels, seats, full carbon interior etc $$$$
Initially I see $33K in options....$10K for the wheels and seats each, $13K for the carbon and steering wheel.....other than that I see no other CF interior....there's also the parking sensors front and back, rear cam, stitching, shields, calipers....I bet its an MSRP of $290-300.....
Old 05-29-2015, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rockitman
There you go again...talking hi end audio... I have the AF1 phono stage warming up as we speak....Allnic H5000 DHT.
lol, the analogy is true though, right?
for sure the h3000v could have done the job.....

enjoy!

the italia can cruise very quietly if one wishes.
not sure if the speciale can do that trick at all.
Old 05-29-2015, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by -eztrader-
I had a 2011 Italia...kept it for over a year.

If I were you - I would spend some time in one before buying it. At first it's fun, cool looking, etc...but after a while it wears off, and you want something different.

It attracts tons of attention, is a little too video game like to drive, and definitely not a good daily driver. The car hates to go slow, and is pretty miserable to drive and obey the laws.

All that being said...if you have to own one - I would buy an older model that has depreciated substantially- - and try not to lose a lot in the year or so you keep yours.
Exactly what he said.
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Originally Posted by kyrocks
Exactly what he said.
Except I would disagree the feeling wears off....
Old 05-29-2015, 01:44 PM
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Maybe consider waiting 8 months or so when the 488's start getting delivered (458's getting traded in). At that point we should see a drop in 458 prices.
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Originally Posted by Brandon_
Maybe consider waiting 8 months or so when the 488's start getting delivered (458's getting traded in). At that point we should see a drop in 458 prices.

That's a good point. Thank you all for your insights. Good food for thought.
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Originally Posted by Brandon_
Maybe consider waiting 8 months or so when the 488's start getting delivered (458's getting traded in). At that point we should see a drop in 458 prices.
^Yes, I own one and we aren't too far away from $125-150k value levels soon so I'd wait at this point as future fun to value factor of 458 will be much higher over next couple years. 458 is a great Ferrari imo and has been the most reliable yet in my stable vs several others I have. If you get tired of cars in general then 458 will be no different than any other car and after some time they all get boring?
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Originally Posted by sccchiii
^Yes, I own one and we aren't too far away from $125-150k value levels soon so I'd wait at this point as future fun to value factor of 458 will be much higher over next couple years. 458 is a great Ferrari imo and has been the most reliable yet in my stable vs several others I have. If you get tired of cars in general then 458 will be no different than any other car and after some time they all get boring?
This is the ultimate joy/dread of it all...a never ending cycle of buying, driving, appreciating, and looking...
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rm - stick to porsche.
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Originally Posted by aussie jimmy
rm - stick to porsche.

I know...just received my 1/18 scale LO model today. I love the color. I am still having issues removing the 458 from my thought process....I will be speaking to my dealers GM to get a better handle on an RS allocation or not. If I have to wait the entire summer to find out one way or the other I may go Italy....or I will just STFU and be happy I have a GT3 just the way I want it.
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Originally Posted by rockitman
I know...just received my 1/18 scale LO model today. I love the color. I am still having issues removing the 458 from my thought process....I will be speaking to my dealers GM to get a better handle on an RS allocation or not. If I have to wait the entire summer to find out one way or the other I may go Italy....or I will just STFU and be happy I have a GT3 just the way I want it.
Stunning car. If you can swing it go for it. You can always be sorry later after you have at least experienced it. Or you will always wonder if you didn't
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Originally Posted by 991 3Turbo
Stunning car. If you can swing it go for it. You can always be sorry later after you have at least experienced it. Or you will always wonder if you didn't

I can swing it...I also have major Porsche guilt. I suppose I could buy it and trade in my GT3 and keep my request for an RS build and if granted 9 mos from now, figure out what to do then. I can't do both cars for various reasons. This is the last NA Ferrari...I may regret missing out.


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