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Will 2016 GT3 Impact '14 and '15 Values?

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Old 04-26-2015, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
I doubt it will have an noticeable impact on the prices of 2014 & 2015 GT3s. However, I think this is great news because it's a tell confirming that PAG will produce more RSs and GT4s than people think. Build baby build.
I have NO doubt more RS's will be built...too hard for them to pass up those $$.
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I have NO doubt more RS's will be built...too hard for them to pass up those $$.
Yup, they are a for-profit business after all, right? I know that PAG wants my US DOLLARS and I'm more than happy to give it to them. Hope you guys at PCNA/PAG are listening.... I just have to be patient to get the RS and GT4. I can be very patient since I bought a 991 GT3.
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If the production #s speculated for 2016 MY are accurate, these will be very difficult to get. Few, if any, dealers will get more than one and some will get none.

My guess is these unicorns will have a marginal impact on GT3 resale values.
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Porsche is so unpredictable 300 units could turn into 800....or more
Old 04-26-2015, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by shapiroeric
Porsche is so unpredictable 300 units could turn into 800....or more
You've got that right...just like there were suppose to be zero '16's
Old 04-26-2015, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by shapiroeric
Porsche is so unpredictable 300 units could turn into 800....or more
I think they are actually being smart...build as many as the market will bare. My guess is that they'll build more than 300....maybe 500 or 700. I like how some of the folks on here said they were going to stop building RSs/GT4s/GT3s at the end of this fall....yeah OK.
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Not to be a contrarian, but 300 additional cars is about an 17-18% in supply (based on Mjones reported sales). That is a big addition to supply. If prices don't go down it has to be because there is a lot of pent up demand (reflected by the premiums over MSRP). IMHO prices have to come down, at least the premiums will. To believe they will not is to believe there is an inexhaustible supply of buyers for GT3s. I find that hard to understand.
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Seems like 300 is the one consistent "fact" amongst all the noise, even at that number I think it will have a modest impact on values. May at least kill the MSRP+$10k or more dealers are asking for used GT3s.
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Originally Posted by ATXGT3
Agree guys. Have my '16 built exactly the way I want this time...left off all of the CF interior margin makers.

Numero uno on dealer list and have V070 status (awaiting allocation)...demand gen into PCNA from dealer.
So what's your perfect built, just curious.
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MY14-16 are all exactly the same so two years from now the only thing that will matter is the mileage of an individual car.
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Originally Posted by JasonAndreas
MY14-16 are all exactly the same so two years from now the only thing that will matter is the mileage of an individual car.
the "replaced" engines of the 14s will be a question mark for some.
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Originally Posted by Drifting
the "replaced" engines of the 14s will be a question mark for some.
Maybe these 300 are using the replaced blocks and heads from the 14s.
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Originally Posted by MDKK
So what's your perfect built, just curious.
Probably not yours...I don't track so nothing exciting (no PCCB and yes I like 18 way). To each their own.


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Originally Posted by Drifting
the "replaced" engines of the 14s will be a question mark for some.
I'm struggling to remember ever seeing a single example when a replacement engine from Porsche decreased the value of a 911 (not that I've spent the last twenty years comparing numbers). If anything its always been the opposite due to mileage?
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Buy it, drive it, and in 40 years no one will remember engine replacement! In 40 years, if you're still alive and worried about resale then good job you because you still own the car and hopefully have enjoyed it which is most important.....you think the original owners of a 70's era 911 RS back in day were worried about what they were going to sell them for in future????? My simple 2 cents is many put far to much time into resale value discussions. If resale is only concern you probably should choose a different hobby.


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