991 GT3 RS - Confirmed Orders
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I have a commission number for september build. It is my understanding and I believe numbers that the total number is 700 all in. There will be no more allocations. 266 to 918 owners. between 240-245 for dealers and 105 that have been given already to the dealers by PCNA. See the post from Rdeacon he is correct.
#19
My dealer just told me to F off. He is not giving me my allocation. I gave a deposit of 5000 grand 7 months ago. I was 1st on the list and have a letter stating that. He still told me too bad.
I sent a letter via attorney, but what are my options at this point.
I sent a letter via attorney, but what are my options at this point.
#20
500 works out to 2.5 average per dealer (at 200 dealers). The lowest number I've heard from a dealer was 2 and there are a number of people on here posting 5+, but some also posting 1 so it seems likely to me that 500 were handed out.
Some people on here have multiple orders and I'm sure there are many others in the market. 500 doesn't go far, who knows if there will be more - but clearly the market demand is still there.
Some people on here have multiple orders and I'm sure there are many others in the market. 500 doesn't go far, who knows if there will be more - but clearly the market demand is still there.
The one that got the most received 2.
Some of them received 1.
Some of them did not receive any yet.
#21
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#22
Rennlist Member
I have a confirmed order, September build. My dealer got 10 allocations first round - I am number 2.
#23
where is your dealer located?
#24
Wow, lovely...please provide the name of the dealer so we can all make a point to avoid them.
#25
#26
Nordschleife Master
If that is how they treated you, I would definitely be calling PCNA and filling them in with what you just went through. Tell them you demand some sort of action, with no not being an option. Good luck.
#27
The 1900 number is assuming 500 non 918 cars in the US, assume another 500 RoW and 900 orders from 918 customers.
#28
I took another look at some of the public PAG and PCNA numbers while on the train this morning. So another cut at the global numbers, which actually makes it look worse is:
2014 Total 911 Sales: 30,500 (Announced at above 30,000, other numbers in the same PR are rounded to the nearest 1,000 so this should be about right).
2014 US 911/918 sales: 10,529
US 911 sales as a % of Global: 10,529 / 30,500 = 34.5%
Total implied Global Allocations assuming 500 US: 500/0.345 = 1448
US 918 Customer takeup: 225/266 = 84.6%
Total Global 918 Customer Orders: 918 * 84.6% = 776
Total Potential Allocations so far = 776 + 1448 = 2,224
Assumes that the US customer 918 behavior is the same as other markets and assumes that the allocation method as widely reported is number of 911 sales.
I still think that:
1) PAG will send additional allocations to whichever markets appear to have additional demand; and
2) A number of US dealers are still sitting on allocations trying to sell them at premiums, which is hurting point 1 above.
2014 Total 911 Sales: 30,500 (Announced at above 30,000, other numbers in the same PR are rounded to the nearest 1,000 so this should be about right).
2014 US 911/918 sales: 10,529
US 911 sales as a % of Global: 10,529 / 30,500 = 34.5%
Total implied Global Allocations assuming 500 US: 500/0.345 = 1448
US 918 Customer takeup: 225/266 = 84.6%
Total Global 918 Customer Orders: 918 * 84.6% = 776
Total Potential Allocations so far = 776 + 1448 = 2,224
Assumes that the US customer 918 behavior is the same as other markets and assumes that the allocation method as widely reported is number of 911 sales.
I still think that:
1) PAG will send additional allocations to whichever markets appear to have additional demand; and
2) A number of US dealers are still sitting on allocations trying to sell them at premiums, which is hurting point 1 above.
#29
Three Wheelin'
Who told you and how did you confirm your deposit position? Do you have your deposit position for RS in writing or agreement that states that and did that give you the right to that position? Unfortunately you will find it is wasted money to pursue to any great legal lengths. Most likely all things you signed (if you signed docs other than deposit?) are worded to state that dealer makes no promise of a deal because you don't have a car built. My suggestions, have a letter sent (done), call PCNA, make some verbal waves but beyond that it is a wasted resources to continue to fight a losing battle. Maybe film a YouTube video of your circumstances of story with the docs and what happened to cause cancelation see if it raises any eyebrows at dealership to get any response....this is a last resort way and I wouldn't go that route out of gate but if what you say is true and they just pulled plug with no detailed explanation (and indeed you were high on list and they have allocations to provide your position a car?) then it's certainly not right but there are always 2 sides to every story as they say.
#30
Has anyone been given a reason why this RS is going to be produced in smaller numbers than the market demands?
I understand that we as buyers want to keep production numbers low so the car depreciates less, but the facts are against it!
1. The 991gt3 sold in great numbers. It's a great car and with the PDK it's more of a DD than previous gen.
2. My guess is that the 1RS will be a beast on track but still very good and comfortable on street. Very luxurious interior, PDK and high ride hight.
3. The economic climate is massively improved compared to when the 997rs was on sale.
The things that might hurt sales for the 991rs is as I can see it!
1. Paint issues. If I can't get a $200k in a color I like why spend the money? Personally I don't compromise when it comes to these kind of purchases.
Please add to the list.
I understand that we as buyers want to keep production numbers low so the car depreciates less, but the facts are against it!
1. The 991gt3 sold in great numbers. It's a great car and with the PDK it's more of a DD than previous gen.
2. My guess is that the 1RS will be a beast on track but still very good and comfortable on street. Very luxurious interior, PDK and high ride hight.
3. The economic climate is massively improved compared to when the 997rs was on sale.
The things that might hurt sales for the 991rs is as I can see it!
1. Paint issues. If I can't get a $200k in a color I like why spend the money? Personally I don't compromise when it comes to these kind of purchases.
Please add to the list.