transmission failure
#16
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At 1000 mi. the transmission in my '11' GTS developed a small leak. The service department ordered a new transmission and it came in two days later, my car was drivable. Installed on the 3rd day and I was on my way. Never an issue after that one.
#17
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If this is truly a PDK failure, it's a plug and play part. Dealership will order a new one, and you'll soon be on your way. There have been a few of these early failures on the 991 Forum. Yes, the 991 GT3 PDK is different (hardware or software?????.... I don't know) but, stuff fails and breaks.
#18
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New with 2 year warranty on replacement (this is the US policy, standard PDK). Not sure how it wraps with new car warranty if there is more than 2 years remaining. Should check with the dealer/service manager, it could be a subtle point. My data point is with replacements near end of original warranty for standard PDK. PDK-S may be different since it is GT3 but most definitely it will be a new unit, no reman.
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New with 2 year warranty on replacement (this is the US policy, standard PDK). Not sure how it wraps with new car warranty if there is more than 2 years remaining. Should check with the dealer/service manager, it could be a subtle point. My data point is with replacements near end of original warranty for standard PDK. PDK-S may be different since it is GT3 but most definitely it will be a new unit, no reman.
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New with 2 year warranty on replacement (this is the US policy, standard PDK). Not sure how it wraps with new car warranty if there is more than 2 years remaining. Should check with the dealer/service manager, it could be a subtle point. My data point is with replacements near end of original warranty for standard PDK. PDK-S may be different since it is GT3 but most definitely it will be a new unit, no reman.
Ask me how I know. 😉
All this to say, Porsche/dealer "good will" has some leeway.
#23
Three Wheelin'
PDK-S assembly has proven up to this point not to be a quick replacment in terms of time car is down (currently tranny has a 3-4 week arrival to dealership but this will vary a lot going forward)....these are new units but in a couple years we will start to see reman'd units come into circulation.
#25
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Tranny not so sure.
Feels like a disposable appliance in that respect. But suspect give some time and people will start to work on them.
#26
One thing I learned from this fix.
When doing alignment one should turn on the engine and keep it running to keep.the rear steering motor stayed in center. Otherwise you will end up with wrong setting
When doing alignment one should turn on the engine and keep it running to keep.the rear steering motor stayed in center. Otherwise you will end up with wrong setting
#27
Three Wheelin'
Yes and yes....but in future even for Indy shop it will still be much more cost effective to replace the entire assemblies just as it is for Porsche now. Companies besides Porsche will start offering both engine and PDK-S rebuilt units at some point in future most likely when these cars all are far outside factory warranty coverage so that they can make money doing so.
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Yes and yes....but in future even for Indy shop it will still be much more cost effective to replace the entire assemblies just as it is for Porsche now. Companies besides Porsche will start offering both engine and PDK-S rebuilt units at some point in future most likely when these cars all are far outside factory warranty coverage so that they can make money doing so.
#29
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I haven't seen inside pdks, but inside a 997.2 turbo s pdk I have, and upgrading the clutch packs in that transmission was not a trivial job. I'm going off memory, but what I remember is there is a drum like thing at the front of the transmission that contains the clutches. It had to be cut open, and the inside looked sort of like a LSD setup. They upgraded the components, then welded it back shut to a very, very high runout tolerance. This turbo car is north of 1000 HP and needed upgrade.
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I haven't seen inside pdks, but inside a 997.2 turbo s pdk I have, and upgrading the clutch packs in that transmission was not a trivial job. I'm going off memory, but what I remember is there is a drum like thing at the front of the transmission that contains the clutches. It had to be cut open, and the inside looked sort of like a LSD setup. They upgraded the components, then welded it back shut to a very, very high runout tolerance. This turbo car is north of 1000 HP and needed upgrade.