Reducing consumables cost? (tires/pads/rotors -> GT3 and future GT4 owners)
02-10-2015, 05:53 PM
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Reducing consumables cost? (tires/pads/rotors -> GT3 and future GT4 owners)
Considering rotors, pads, and tires, after a little research I've found that: (updated with longer lasting rear rotors/pads)
pads = about $950 a set, PFC, last 5-8 days? If fronts last 7 and rears 14 then the cost per day is:
102/day
oem rotors = $3200 a set, last 16 days front, 32 rear
150/day
tires $2112 (tirerack) last 7 days
302/day
The per track day costs are $554!
It seems that there exist 18 inch wheels that barely fit over the brakes. In that case, Nitto NT-01 tires could used instead for $1200 a set, bringing the per day tire cost to $150. (19 inch wheels also have more tire availability)
The racing brake rotor replacements seem to be about $1700 a set once you buy their centers. Then the rotor per day cost goes down to $80
With those rotor and tire choices, the cost is 332/day. Is it possible to do better?
It seems the cost for tires/pads/rotors for a 2004 GT3 is 250/day, partly because of a lighter, less powerful car, and partly due to the availability of much cheaper 1 piece rotors ($120 a disc in the front!).
pads = about $950 a set, PFC, last 5-8 days? If fronts last 7 and rears 14 then the cost per day is:
102/day
oem rotors = $3200 a set, last 16 days front, 32 rear
150/day
tires $2112 (tirerack) last 7 days
302/day
The per track day costs are $554!
It seems that there exist 18 inch wheels that barely fit over the brakes. In that case, Nitto NT-01 tires could used instead for $1200 a set, bringing the per day tire cost to $150. (19 inch wheels also have more tire availability)
The racing brake rotor replacements seem to be about $1700 a set once you buy their centers. Then the rotor per day cost goes down to $80
With those rotor and tire choices, the cost is 332/day. Is it possible to do better?
It seems the cost for tires/pads/rotors for a 2004 GT3 is 250/day, partly because of a lighter, less powerful car, and partly due to the availability of much cheaper 1 piece rotors ($120 a disc in the front!).
Last edited by Yargk; 02-10-2015 at 07:03 PM.
02-10-2015, 06:34 PM
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Are the 991s really that bad on rear pads and rotors? At least with the 996, I hear you can double the days on rear pads and rotors
02-10-2015, 06:44 PM
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That's a good question, I'd imagine the rears do last longer, but I'll wait for owners to chime in. I know with the 997 GT3 that the bias was changed a bit compared to the 996 and the rears started being used more.
If the rears do last much longer, costs could be off by $50-75 on the high end, but there still seems to be a lot of room to make it cheaper.
If the rears do last much longer, costs could be off by $50-75 on the high end, but there still seems to be a lot of room to make it cheaper.
02-10-2015, 06:46 PM
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02-10-2015, 07:00 PM
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Never add up the receipts.
These cars are fast, and will wear on consumables faster. You're also forgetting to add in inspections, nut/bolt checks, replacement of bearings, hub assemblies, etc that need to be considered for heavy track use. You also forgot brake flushes, fuel... it's a long list.
Like I said, never add up the receipts.
These cars are fast, and will wear on consumables faster. You're also forgetting to add in inspections, nut/bolt checks, replacement of bearings, hub assemblies, etc that need to be considered for heavy track use. You also forgot brake flushes, fuel... it's a long list.
Like I said, never add up the receipts.
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02-11-2015, 03:27 AM
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keith your number is way off.
it's $1k a day min.
you haven't counted many otehr things.
i dont know if u value your time.
what's your hourly rate?
alignment should be done often, like every track weekend.
oil every other track weekend.
if you only get 5 ays on R888, you will get 3.5 days on mpsc2
hahha, you been doing this too long. like you, i leave my card at the mechanic. actually tony has a book of my signed chk wiht no amount filled in.
it's $1k a day min.
you haven't counted many otehr things.
i dont know if u value your time.
what's your hourly rate?
alignment should be done often, like every track weekend.
oil every other track weekend.
hahha, you been doing this too long. like you, i leave my card at the mechanic. actually tony has a book of my signed chk wiht no amount filled in.
02-11-2015, 03:39 AM
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YMMV, but it's not wast of money for me.
oil comes out dark and blk
and my last outing was 450 track miles over two days.
oil comes out dark and blk
and my last outing was 450 track miles over two days.
02-11-2015, 03:47 AM
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How to reduce cost of consumables on a GT3 at the track? SLOW DOWN. 
02-11-2015, 03:49 AM
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Never add up the receipts.
These cars are fast, and will wear on consumables faster. You're also forgetting to add in inspections, nut/bolt checks, replacement of bearings, hub assemblies, etc that need to be considered for heavy track use. You also forgot brake flushes, fuel... it's a long list.
Like I said, never add up the receipts.
These cars are fast, and will wear on consumables faster. You're also forgetting to add in inspections, nut/bolt checks, replacement of bearings, hub assemblies, etc that need to be considered for heavy track use. You also forgot brake flushes, fuel... it's a long list.
Like I said, never add up the receipts.
02-11-2015, 03:52 AM
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OP is a friend of mine, i will corrupt him.
spyerx is getting smart. maybe smarter than you now! he buys in bulk.
now that all my RS tires are done except 6 more 305, i have oh i think 32 tires for the CR ;-)
spyerx is getting smart. maybe smarter than you now! he buys in bulk.
now that all my RS tires are done except 6 more 305, i have oh i think 32 tires for the CR ;-)
02-11-2015, 03:56 AM
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Right.
I merely meant to isolate some costs that we might have some control over. And then ignore the others!
Seriously though, it's interesting what costs more on the later cars. Hubs were mentioned above. But perhaps the GT4 hubs will last longer because they aren't centerlocks? I wonder what else is a wear item.
I merely meant to isolate some costs that we might have some control over. And then ignore the others!
Seriously though, it's interesting what costs more on the later cars. Hubs were mentioned above. But perhaps the GT4 hubs will last longer because they aren't centerlocks? I wonder what else is a wear item.