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Old 01-26-2015, 12:24 AM
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Hey Guys
A big shout out to Colin. I stopped by the shop on Friday to see what was going on. The roll cages are really a nice piece of work. The tubes are beautifully formed and the mitres' have a perfect fit. He has made a very nice jig to keep the cage precise during Tig Welding. These cages will fit perfectly on the factory hard points and look fantastic. I was also concerned about resale of my car in the future and want a cage that is removable with the minimum amount of interior modification.
Old 01-26-2015, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SmokinGTS
Hey Guys
A big shout out to Colin. I stopped by the shop on Friday to see what was going on. The roll cages are really a nice piece of work. The tubes are beautifully formed and the mitres' have a perfect fit. He has made a very nice jig to keep the cage precise during Tig Welding. These cages will fit perfectly on the factory hard points and look fantastic. I was also concerned about resale of my car in the future and want a cage that is removable with the minimum amount of interior modification.
I understand the cage bolts into some factor locations in the front-most mounting points, but how is the cage attached to the chassis in the rear-most mounting points?
Old 01-26-2015, 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by SmokinGTS
Hey Guys
A big shout out to Colin. I stopped by the shop on Friday to see what was going on. The roll cages are really a nice piece of work. The tubes are beautifully formed and the mitres' have a perfect fit. He has made a very nice jig to keep the cage precise during Tig Welding. These cages will fit perfectly on the factory hard points and look fantastic. I was also concerned about resale of my car in the future and want a cage that is removable with the minimum amount of interior modification.
emt touch my batch lol
Old 01-26-2015, 12:57 PM
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^one of those is mine, right? Let me know details, still thinking of going to Seattle for install, so they can solve the harness issue also. PM or email me the contact you have there.

Speaking of the harness, has anyone tried attaching to the sub bar that is already on the drivers side seat? Looks like it could work with no mods. Same thing exists on the passenger side but it's crowded with connectors and for some reason is tighter to the seat bottom, but that might work too if only we had the pass through in the shell of the seat! I think a little cutting is in order!
Old 01-26-2015, 01:07 PM
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^ BTW, I don't think the integrity of the seat is at all an issue for cutting out the pass thru, esp since it's the same seat on the driver's side with a pass through. Let's just do it!

Here's an article on cutting carbon fiber:

Composite Laminate Cutting
Composite Laminate Cutting
The Basics of Composite Laminate Cutting
Cutting composites is uniquely difficult when compared to cutting wood, metal, or other more traditional building materials. There are a several reasons for this, but there are three primary factors which impact tool selection when cutting laminates.

First, reinforcement fibers are abrasive. Since carbon fiber, fiberglass, and Kevlar® fibers can be abrasive, tools with traditional cutting edges dull quickly, effectively shortening tool life. In addition to wearing out your tools quickly, cutting composites with dull tools increases the likelihood that you will damage the material while also increasing the severity of overheating, our second factor of consideration.

Composites do not typically transfer heat very well. Resin and cut fibers carry away relatively little heat, unlike metal chips, and overheating can melt resin or prematurely dull your tool. When resin melts, it can also clog your cutting tool or damage the finish of your part. In severe instances, there can be enough heat build-up near the edges of a laminate to sacrifice the structural integrity of a part.

Lastly, composites can delaminate when cut. Delamination varies from minor edge chipping (burrs, and fibers showing on poorly drilled holes/poorly trimmed edges) to major stress fractures due to poor bonding of resin to reinforcement.

Each of these factors will affect your tool selection, and determine how you will cut your composite. While there are a variety of methods available (including 5-Axis CNC machines, water jet, and laser jet), the majority of fabricators will cut with either basic rotary tools or straight blades.

Before we get started, it should be noted that while carbon fiber and fiberglass dust is not toxic, it is a mild irritant to the skin, eyes, and lungs. We strongly recommend that you wear a dust mask and eye protection to minimize any itching or irritation, especially when cutting or sanding in quantity. Edges can be very sharp, so gloves are also critical to avoid cuts and slivers. Check out our safety supplies to find all of the products needed to ensure you are cutting composite laminates safely and correctly.

Cutting with Rotary Tools
Rotary CuttingRotary tools are the most widely used method for cutting composite laminates. Whether you are cutting carbon fiber sheet or a fiberglass hull, there is usually a rotary tool just right for the job. Rotary cutting tools vary from small handheld rotary tools, like a Dremel or pneumatic rotary, to routers and even angle grinders. Rotary tools are used for cutting and finishing all types of materials. They are portable, versatile, and easy to use and they make quick, smooth cuts. When cutting tubes or rods with a rotary tool, we recommend making cuts from the top down.

You will likely need dedicated accessories for cutting composites, even if you own a rotary tool. Since most common bits and blades aren't made specifically for cutting composites, they will likely be prone to wear prematurely and introduce fraying or chipping along laminate edges. They can also get clogged with resin. Abrasive or grit-style cutoff wheels or drums, made from diamond or tungsten carbide, for example, allow your tool to retain its edge. Diamond is the hardest natural material and is often used for cutting tools for this reason. At Fibre Glast, we offer a Bosch Diamond Abrasive Blade for an angle grinder, perfect for this application.

The Perma-Grit cutting tools, also available on our website, feature a tungsten carbide-grit cutting surface, and are designed for use with composites. Tungsten carbide is one of the hardest known materials next to diamond, and the grit found on Perma-Grit products is more aggressive than typical diamond tools, allowing you to cut, shape, and sand composite parts quicker, and likewise, with less heat generation.

Rotary tools allow you to cut to, or close to, your finished edge. They are easy to use, relatively inexpensive, allow for small and accurate cuts, and when using appropriate blades or tools, require little or no finish sanding. They do, however, generate dust and more heat in general (due to high RPMs). Because they're handheld, they also make it difficult to make square cuts, and may skip along the surface, potentially causing damage.

Cutting with Blades
Jigsaw CuttingFabricators also cut composites with straight blades. Straight blades employ a back-and-forth method and range from handheld coping saws and hacksaws to saber saws and jigsaws. The back-and-forth motion of straight blades typically introduces more edge damage than rotary tools. This is minimized, however, by using hand tools since there isn't as much cutting force.

Blade selection is critical with regard to using this method. Most blades are made with a 'tooth-style' cutting edge. Tooth-styles wear quickly when subjected to the abrasive fibers and heat generated when cutting most laminates. They also causes extreme edge damage, particularly when using coarse-tooth (wood) blades. Fine-tooth (metal) blades introduce less edge damage than coarse, but they also wear quickly and can get clogged with resin. Tungsten carbide grit-style blades introduce the least amount of edge damage, last longer, and cut more quickly. Jigsaws and saber saws use a very quick back-and-forth motion that allow for straight or curved lines in laminates. They are best used on flat surfaces or small diameter tubes and rod due to their short stroke. Fibre Glast offers two Perma-Grit tungsten carbide jigsaw blades.

With straight blades, low-cost hand tools can be used to make extremely small cuts. Electric-powered jigsaws or saber saws add the benefit of cutting significantly faster than rotary tools. Fabricators should note, however, that the back-and-forth motion of straight blades causes more edge damage than rotary tools. Because of this potential damage, we recommend cutting shy of your intended finish cut line and using a sanding block or file to draw back the edge.

Finishing Cut Edges
A top-quality edge will require one final step. After a part has been cut, we recommend using our Perma-Grit sanding blocks or hand tools to straighten out and clean up your edges. Unlike traditional sanding equipment or files, Perma-Grit products will not wear quickly, don't get clogged with resin, and permit faster sanding. Fibre Glast offers a variety of different sanding blocks and hand tools to help with everything from long straight edges to complex cuts, holes or corners. Once your cut edge has been properly sanded or filed, you can protect the edges of your part by simply mixing a small batch of resin and carefully applying it to the cut edge. You can apply with either a small brush or by wiping the resin on with a lint-free cloth.
Old 01-26-2015, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bigkraig
I sent you guys a message through the website, do you have more up for sale and ready to go?
We are building as many as we need to over the next 30 days in this production run. It's best to place the order online so we have all of your info and we will let you know when yours is ready to ship.

Thanks,

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Old 01-26-2015, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mech33
I understand the cage bolts into some factor locations in the front-most mounting points, but how is the cage attached to the chassis in the rear-most mounting points?
There are two M10 bolt inserts and a locating pin per side on the chassis just ahead of the rear strut towers.

I'll try to upload some pictures. For some reason it won't allow me to do it on a mobile device.

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Old 01-27-2015, 03:02 AM
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Thanks. So front and rear are all factory bolt-on locations? Very cool.

Originally Posted by Colin - Cantrell Motorsports
There are two M10 bolt inserts and a locating pin per side on the chassis just ahead of the rear strut towers.

I'll try to upload some pictures. For some reason it won't allow me to do it on a mobile device.

Colin Cantrell
Old 01-27-2015, 03:06 AM
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Hi, what is the difference with this and the factory club sport package cage?
Old 01-27-2015, 03:07 AM
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^ if you are in USA, you simply cannot get club sport bar period.
Old 01-27-2015, 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mooty
^ if you are in USA, you simply cannot get club sport bar period.
well I'm gonna sue !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! where is Gert/Carnwal in this conversation ? In fact...no 991 parts on his site.
Old 01-27-2015, 04:14 AM
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wow thats not cool... I hope the aftermarket rollbars do the same job
Old 02-12-2015, 01:50 PM
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Default Cantrell Motorsports 991 Half Cage

Here are a couple pictures of our 991 bolt in half cages last week in production. Our bars are shipping now so please let us know if you need one. We feel this is the best design and fit on the market. Our bars don't attach to seatbelt mounts or through 991 aluminum floor. They are mounted to the main steel structure of the vehicle which is the safest way to do it.
Let me know if you have any questions.

Secure orders can be placed on our website here: http://www.cantrellmotorsport.com/in...ategory_id=398





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Just placed my order.....
Old 02-12-2015, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Rovman
Just placed my order.....
Thanks for the order!

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