Chris Harris' 991 GT3 vs 458 Speciale video
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Interesting how we rarely hear ab this. So you're thinking that a dedicated track machine like the new z06 hasn't been tested in track conditions and is liable to overheat after just a few laps? Wouldn't this be a massive scandal and loss of credibility if widely publicized? Is this a one-off, or do all z06 last only a few laps?
I just know that Pobst's car in that R&T video overheated after 4 laps at Road Atlanta. His car was an 8AT.
Also aren't you curious why there was no commentary fro Pobst after his test drive? Usually there's almost always some feedback by Randy. Not this time. Odd, no?
GM still hasn't figured out the overheating issue with that transmission which is why ALL current production Z06s are in 7MT guise. Look around dealer inventory and there's only the 7MT available. I don't think dealers can even guarantee a delivery date for the 8AT even for customers who have put down a deposit and ordered an automatic.
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C7 Z06: 186 mph
991 GT3: 195 mph
So much for all horsepower.
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Interesting how we rarely hear ab this. So you're thinking that a dedicated track machine like the new z06 hasn't been tested in track conditions and is liable to overheat after just a few laps? Wouldn't this be a massive scandal and loss of credibility if widely publicized? Is this a one-off, or do all z06 last only a few laps?
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Interesting how we rarely hear ab this. So you're thinking that a dedicated track machine like the new z06 hasn't been tested in track conditions and is liable to overheat after just a few laps? Wouldn't this be a massive scandal and loss of credibility if widely publicized? Is this a one-off, or do all z06 last only a few laps?
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In fairness to the Z06, it's going to have a hard time putting the power down at low speed due to being RWD but front engine. From say 60 to 120 mph, I suspect that accel of Z06 will clobber the GT3.
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I have a couple of friends that are big Ferrari collectors, they both already sold out of the Speciale for MSRP. They didn't think it was worth the premium vs the 458 and are skeptical on the collectability of any modern Ferraris.
I still think it's a great looking car, but given the choice between a 458S and a GT3 RS + dedicated track car, I picked the latter.
I still think it's a great looking car, but given the choice between a 458S and a GT3 RS + dedicated track car, I picked the latter.
I think you have to consider the GT3 in it's own light.
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Would you be ok if the same thing happened to the GT3?
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This is probably why there is no ring time and why the z/28 time was done in the rain
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I have different expectations on a GT3 - it's that reputation that keeps people coming back to the brand. My track days are not club days, but any car is allowed, you see probably 60% pcars, 20% Fcars and a smattering of others here and there, with Lotus probably being the next most common.
The guys running 650S, Audi R8s etc all face major problems with brake fade, overheating, oil consumption etc. People should do their research before buying a car based on magazine and media hype.
The guys running 650S, Audi R8s etc all face major problems with brake fade, overheating, oil consumption etc. People should do their research before buying a car based on magazine and media hype.
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trap speeds are indicative of horsepower. Actual 1/4 time is a factor of traction AND hp. Trap speed is a good indication of what kind of power the car is making regardless of traction
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