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OT: The "other, other, GT car": Corvette Z06 test drive reports

Old 11-24-2014, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Petevb
M3? Or M2?

M3's getting panned- 9th place out of 10 at EVO's car of the year. M2 likely won't be durable enough for track work- street car class at best.
Sorry, should have been M2. I view most of these at street cars...
Old 11-24-2014, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jumper5836
Originally Posted by neanicu
What I'm most curious is if the RS will keep up...
Not unless it has turbos.
Yea of little faith...

The GT3's nearly accelerating with the Z06 despite being 175 hp down- both do 11.1 1/4 mile at 126 or 127 per C&D. Add downforce, grip and power with the RS- should be a good battle if they want it to be.

And Porsche has shown a willingness to protect their turf at the Ring even if it breaks their own rules (GT2 RS). Perhaps another motive to delay releasing final RS specs- they wanted to know what they need to cover?

Even with the 918 Porsche has said the 6:57 isn't final, reserving the right to go back and do it again if McLaren ever publishes a time. It seems one game they take pretty seriously. I wouldn't bet against them.
Old 11-24-2014, 07:17 PM
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Wait - since when is the Cayman GT4 currently available? I have seen no concrete specs from Porsche.
It's the one I'm waiting for!
Old 11-24-2014, 08:28 PM
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Its not out yet. I would have included the 918, P1, and LaFerrari if were talking desirability.
Meanwhile here's MT:

Old 11-24-2014, 08:50 PM
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@ 6:58 "Fear"....amen to that!
Old 11-24-2014, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Petevb
M3's getting panned- 9th place out of 10 at EVO's car of the year. M2 likely won't be durable enough for track work- street car class at best.
M3 suffers the same fate as so many current performance cars: too much weight, too much technology, and trying to be too many things at once.

Dump the turbos, electric steering, 300lbs, button down the suspension, and give it a real manual and the car would be so much more engaging.

That said, it's a hammer (11.66sec qtr mile) and a heck of nice commuter.

1:30 RA lap?!? That's almost 10 seconds faster than the fastest Cup car at this year's PCA race.

I trust it'll look far better in person than it does in photos/videos. Too bad about the 6,500rpm redline.
Old 11-24-2014, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Nizer
1:30 RA lap?!? That's almost 10 seconds faster than the fastest Cup car at this year's PCA race. I trust it'll look far better in person than it does in photos/videos. Too bad about the 6,500rpm redline.
This thing is way fast!
I'm not a Corvette fan,nor do I care so much about lap times,but in today's world that's what everyone is using as comparison. If I have to align myself to the lap time philosophy for a minute here,I'd say this car is the bargain of the century!
Old 11-24-2014, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by kosmo
Its not out yet. I would have included the 918, P1, and LaFerrari if were talking desirability. Meanwhile here's MT: Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS9nV-qtXro&list=PLEFAC5D656286E89B
My ranking was GT versions of regular road cars, in the $100k range, I should have specified. Of course there are always faster unobtainable million dollar machines.. $100k is the new $50k "everyman's" car.
Old 11-24-2014, 11:40 PM
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No doubt straight out of the box, dollar for dollar it's hard to not be a bit amazed at the Z06's raw, claimed, performance capabilities.

But where are the Nurgburgring times? We know GM was doing test runs, as evidenced by this recent fender bender.

http://www.torquenews.com/106/2015-chevrolet-corvette-z06-crashes-during-nurburgring-record-run

At least one additional attempt was made about 3 weeks afterwards as seen below, but no 'Ring times?

http://www.torquenews.com/106/2015-chevrolet-corvette-z06-back-ring-now-laguna-blue

So why no published times yet? Is GM collaborating with McLaren?

And having just been to the LA Auto Show, why are Recaro seats not offered on the Z06 when Cadillac will offer the option on their V-models for the CTS, and as standard equipment for the ATS-V model.
Old 11-25-2014, 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by armbar
Anybody know what kind of lap time the GT3 gets around Atlanta?
Here's member redbear in his 7.2 RS


Not too far off a time set by a pro driver (Pobst) in a press car; I was at RA that day in 2012, cold and windy

Originally Posted by neanicu
It will be there with the Nismo for sure!
What I'm most curious is if the RS will keep up...
Originally Posted by Petevb
Yea of little faith...

The GT3's nearly accelerating with the Z06 despite being 175 hp down- both do 11.1 1/4 mile at 126 or 127 per C&D. Add downforce, grip and power with the RS- should be a good battle if they want it to be.

And Porsche has shown a willingness to protect their turf at the Ring even if it breaks their own rules (GT2 RS). Perhaps another motive to delay releasing final RS specs- they wanted to know what they need to cover?

Even with the 918 Porsche has said the 6:57 isn't final, reserving the right to go back and do it again if McLaren ever publishes a time. It seems one game they take pretty seriously. I wouldn't bet against them.
ZO6 straight line speed and top end are a bit below expectations, but cornering and grip appear to exceed them. The RS will probably get close for more than double the money!
Old 11-25-2014, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by armbar
Anybody know what kind of lap time the GT3 gets around Atlanta?
997.2 RS can get 1:34 on nittos. Probably 1:31 on slicks. Haven't seen any 991's there yet.
Old 11-25-2014, 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Petevb
Yea of little faith...

The GT3's nearly accelerating with the Z06 despite being 175 hp down- both do 11.1 1/4 mile at 126 or 127 per C&D. Add downforce, grip and power with the RS- should be a good battle if they want it to be.

And Porsche has shown a willingness to protect their turf at the Ring even if it breaks their own rules (GT2 RS). Perhaps another motive to delay releasing final RS specs- they wanted to know what they need to cover?

Even with the 918 Porsche has said the 6:57 isn't final, reserving the right to go back and do it again if McLaren ever publishes a time. It seems one game they take pretty seriously. I wouldn't bet against them.
I don't see how making the RS, which will be nearly 200k, as fast as the z06 is protecting their turf. Porsche has no turf to protect. We all love porsche here, but when it comes to real world lap times, Porsches aren't very good value. Corvette, gtr, and viper will embarrass any porsche twice their price.
Old 11-25-2014, 10:28 AM
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But the tortoise wins the race. If past experience predicts the future of this Z06, it will be dead on the track before a GT3 gets winded.

Of course, I'm exaggerating some, but reliability and durability on the track are something porsche dominates over the bargain options.
Old 11-25-2014, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ranger22
But the tortoise wins the race. If past experience predicts the future of this Z06, it will be dead on the track before a GT3 gets winded.

Of course, I'm exaggerating some, but reliability and durability on the track are something porsche dominates over the bargain options.
This is the key thing that makes me willing to spend more for the GT3. Reliability and durability of the GT3 and Z06 on track remain to be seen, but based on history I have more confidence in the GT3.
Old 11-25-2014, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
This is the key thing that makes me willing to spend more for the GT3. Reliability and durability of the GT3 and Z06 on track remain to be seen, but based on history I have more confidence in the GT3.
Maybe, but the cf brakes on the Z06 are much cheaper to replace.

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