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Old 10-31-2014, 05:36 AM
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Can anyone tell me when the next PTS will enter into production?
My car was supposed to be produced in October. Riviera Blue,PTS.
My dealer has no clue about the production and I am now wondering when production will take place. It's confusing. I would appreciate your guidane. Thank you.
Old 10-31-2014, 06:25 AM
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I thought most of the PTS were finishing up production right about now.

Your dealer should be able to give you exact dates. Unless you just ordered and he's only recently submitted the order. In that case, you won't get PTS.
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My order was placed in July and the dealer told me it'll be an October production. Now he is not able to give me a date. Not surprised though, as they have been inefficient so far by all means.
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It should have been done already, my car is a November slot (moved back for the US buckets) and went into production today.

If he can't give you a date now, did he truly have a slot for your car? Did you see a commission number? Dealers can give you this screen at any point you ask:

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Originally Posted by JP Schnegg
My order was placed in July and the dealer told me it'll be an October production. Now he is not able to give me a date. Not surprised though, as they have been inefficient so far by all means.
Then you're likely to be just finishing up now.
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Not exactly

My V270 date was 12/12 and now has moved to 1/23/2015

So PTS orders are still moving all over the place
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Originally Posted by GJ
Not exactly

My V270 date was 12/12 and now has moved to 1/23/2015

So PTS orders are still moving all over the place
It was posted on this forum that sources at PAG/PCNA told them that:

a) No PTS possible in December 2014.

b) MY2015 gt3 production would be finished by end of 2014, period!

Who else is being told NOW that production of their MY2015 991 gt3 will run into January or later, PTS or no PTS?

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My optimistic thought for you is that if you did order and confirm PTS back in July, that perhaps your car made the cutoff for PTS. There are cars delivering now with it, I just don't know about October production or later. There are several of us that tried ordering cars in August/September that were told no more PTS for 2015 GT3.
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Originally Posted by AC SATCO
This was my update as of yesterday and I finish production before January, but wont get the car till feb now
Yours is not PTS. And it's being finished (built) before year end!

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Originally Posted by Z356
Yours is not PTS. And it's being finished built before year end!

But is still somehow odd how long is taking them to ship it out!

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Most probably, one shipment only for all pending end of december built GT3
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Originally Posted by GJ
Not exactly

My V270 date was 12/12 and now has moved to 1/23/2015

So PTS orders are still moving all over the place
GJ:

Can you clarify for us the circumstances of your PTS gt3?

a) Are you a Cat C old MY2014 that go pushed into MY2015?
b) Are you a new allocation MY2015 gt3 that was able to get PTS?
c) If so, what date did your dealer gave you this allocation so that you were able to get PTS on a MY2015 gt3?
d) You are from NY so we assume a US allocation, correct?

This information would be useful for our discussions. Thanks.

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It was posted on this forum that sources at PAG/PCNA told them that:

a) No PTS possible in December 2014.

b) MY2015 gt3 production would be finished by end of 2014, period!

Who else is being told NOW that production of their MY2015 991 gt3 will run into January or later, PTS or no PTS?

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My car was moved up three weeks and is now scheduled for delivery 12/26. Dealer said they were trying to close out in December.

If you think about it why would they want to flush the line before the holidays and then come back and start building GT3s again if the RS is next. Manufacturing needs time to adjust their systems to accommodate all of the new items and changes for the RS. It doesn't happen overnight. I've worked several new vehicle launches with different manufacturers as a steel supplier. A small problem can turn into a fiasco in a heartbeat. They are relying on a global supplier network to deliver everything to spec and on time. I never witnessed that situation.
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Originally Posted by Z356
GJ:

Can you clarify for us the circumstances of your PTS gt3?

a) Are you a Cat C old MY2014 that go pushed into MY2015?
b) Are you a new allocation MY2015 gt3 that was able to get PTS?
c) If so, what date did your dealer gave you this allocation so that you were able to get PTS on a MY2015 gt3?
d) You are from NY so we assume a US allocation, correct?

This information would be useful for our discussions. Thanks.

Saludos,
Eduardo
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Hello Eduardo,

JPSchnegg is not a catC, he got an allocation in Abu Dhabi for a 2015 GT3.
he was able to get PTS and he did get as well a comission number.
he got confirmation in July so based on my calculation (with previous discussion) from Porsche Exclusive in Germany, PTS confirmed means production November.
he is just scared but in few days everything will be OK
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I have a confirmed PTS build in Dec 2014 and delivery in March 2015 (cat C car). My sales manager today suggested that GT3 production will cease in Feb.
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Originally Posted by Alan C.
If you think about it why would they want to flush the line before the holidays and then come back and start building GT3s again if the RS is next. Manufacturing needs time to adjust their systems to accommodate all of the new items and changes for the RS. It doesn't happen overnight. I've worked several new vehicle launches with different manufacturers as a steel supplier. A small problem can turn into a fiasco in a heartbeat. They are relying on a global supplier network to deliver everything to spec and on time. I never witnessed that situation.
No, that's a red herring. Porsche can do a gt3 and a gt3 RS at the same time on the same production line in Zuffenhausen if they wanted to....plus the assorted 991, 991S, 991 Targas, 991 GTS, 991 Turbos, 991 Turbo S, Boxsters and the variations of each! There has to be other reasons for that stoppage of 991 gt3's in December (I am guessing emission regulations, but that is just a hunch). Besides, Porsche will not start producing MY2015 gt3 RS's in January of 2015 when they haven't EVEN introduced the model and it's debut is now expected in March of 2015 in Geneva - 3 months after January! The order book on 991 gt3 RS is not open...so they have no specs to build individual cars since they don't know what the customers will eventually order. So in summary, I thought about what you are saying...but it doesn't add up (in my humble opinion)!

Originally Posted by the-missile
Hello Eduardo, JPSchnegg is not a catC, he got an allocation in Abu Dhabi for a 2015 GT3. he was able to get PTS and he did get as well a comission number. he got confirmation in July so based on my calculation (with previous discussion) from Porsche Exclusive in Germany, PTS confirmed means production November. he is just scared but in few days everything will be OK
That is great for JP Schnegg. But my questions were directed at GJ who is from NY.

But it goes to prove my point about how PAG & PCNA dropped the ball for the US/Canada market for new MY2015 gt3 allocations. I started questioning Rennteam Europeans & Middle Eastern customers back in June of 2014 to see if anyone had an early MY2015 allocation & production date. I never got a reply. But it doesn't surprise me that European and Middle Eastern MY2015 991 gt3 customers got their allocations early (e.g. July of 2014) which enable them to schedule 'normal' PTS in time for their vehicles. What Porsche AG & PCNA did for their US customers & dealers was inconsiderate. They dragged their feet and finally released the new 991 gt3 MY2015 allocations all bunched up in September, then blocked the possibility of PTS builds in December and subsequently announced gt3 production would end by Dec 31st of 2014. That put a time crunch on 'Porsche Exclusive' (which needs 3 full months from locked order to start of built date) which prevented almost all (if not all) new MY2015 991 gt3 customers in US & Canada from being able to order PTS this late in the game! I am pissed...but that is nothing compared to how Mr. Sullivan, Montoya, djcxxx & others loyal customers feel about their inability to get PTS on their gt3 custom orders! Frankly, it's a damn shame and it's another case of mismanagement at PCNA.


Originally Posted by <3mph
I have a confirmed PTS build in Dec 2014 and delivery in March 2015 (cat C car). My sales manager today suggested that GT3 production will cease in Feb.
That's surprising. That is not what was told by PCNA to many 991 gt3 customers on this forum (specifically David-djcxxx from Florida) and perhaps Mr. Sullivan & Montoya too. This kind of confusion & back-and-forth is not good to hear from a professional organization like Porsche. Something is terribly wrong with how communications are being handled by PCNA on this subject re: PTS custom orders.

Saludos,
Eduardo
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