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Old 07-20-2014, 02:15 PM
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Hi all, this is my first post here. I am itching to know the answer to this question....

Does anyone have any idea what Porsche intends to do with all the "at risk" engines they've removed from the GT3's?

I hope they're not going to have them back, replace the rod bolts and put them in new cars??

Nige in the sunny old UK.
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^The million dollar question. I have to believe that any old engine that had miles on it would be scrapped and the ones taken out with no miles will be shipped back to the factory. After that, nobody will know the real answer nor will I believe it
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Originally Posted by Jimmy-D
^The million dollar question. I have to believe that any old engine that had miles on it would be scrapped and the ones taken out with no miles will be shipped back to the factory. After that, nobody will know the real answer nor will I believe it
Won't this depend on how the recall is expensed by Porsche? I can't imagine the situation would be any different to the existing core exchange program. The engines will be completely dismantled and certain parts reused in engines with part numbers ending in X.
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In the NA they are being destroyed. Porsche does not want these engines or their parts put back into the stream of commerce. Don't know about ROW.
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they should be used as cutaway museum displays, I'd be willing to pay $1500 for one as a conversation piece
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I want one for my garage!
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Spare parts for upcoming 991 911 GT3 RS and GT2 prototypes and test mules.
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I would be surprised if they are destroyed in the direct sense of the word. Maybe dismantled for cores of future factory remanufactured engines?
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I would be surprised if they are destroyed in the direct sense of the word. Maybe dismantled for cores of future factory remanufactured engines?
I agree. 700+ engines...most expensive component in the car. Not going in the bin.
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Why can't they sell them as refurbished to other countries (not US)? I would have taken the engine as compensation.
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Take my word for it. They are being destroyed. The fact they would do so at tremendous cost is an indication how complex the problem is with the engines. It was not an easy fix or they would have done it.
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Originally Posted by Nick
Take my word for it. They are being destroyed. The fact they would do so at tremendous cost is an indication how complex the problem is with the engines. It was not an easy fix or they would have done it.
If I had owned one of these and Porsche offered a rebuild I would reject the car. There are "engine builders" and "engine builders" on this little planet.

So, do you think it was more than just rod nuts then?

As for destroying them, why would they destroy the special heads? I kind of wish I was a scrap merchant!!

One story I can tell you all though is this... I have watched hundreds of injector valve bodies be destroyed, just because the engine manufacturer no longer ordered any. I asked, what about the aftermarket dealers? the response I got was not positive!!

Nige
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^ I too would not have accepted a repaired/fixed engine. Only because they offered a brand new engine did I stick with it.
I believe that they will destroy all engines with any miles on it.
I would think the ones' with no miles would be shipped back and used on any future replaced engines or the parts saved for other things.
I do not know legally what their lawyers are conveying. Their may be legal implications so they will follow what they are being told
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Originally Posted by Nick
Take my word for it. They are being destroyed. The fact they would do so at tremendous cost is an indication how complex the problem is with the engines. It was not an easy fix or they would have done it.
Based on what?

There are more parts to an engine other than a block, pistons and rods and rod bolts, and there is no indication that the rest of the motor is somehow flawed.

I bet they will be stripped down and be the basis of factory crate motors.

This wasn't an easy fix b/c it took PAG quite a bit of time to qualify the fix.
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Originally Posted by frayed
Based on what?

There are more parts to an engine other than a block, pistons and rods and rod bolts, and there is no indication that the rest of the motor is somehow flawed.

I bet they will be stripped down and be the basis of factory crate motors.

This wasn't an easy fix b/c it took PAG quite a bit of time to qualify the fix.
One of the supervisors at PCNA told me this and he was emphatic. The engines will not be returned to Germany and will not be allowed to be used for scrapped parts. They will be destroyed.


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