OT. New m3/m4
08-19-2013, 03:08 PM
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08-20-2013, 10:46 AM
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08-20-2013, 06:57 PM
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My first was a E36 M3, Avus Blue. It was lightly optioned with manual seats and no sunroof and it weighed a little less than 3200 lbs. My E46 weighed just over 3400 lbs. When the E90 came out weighing in at over 3600 lbs I moved on. It seems BMW completely dismissed their roots in favor of comfort and amenities. It looks like introspection may have resulted in a better car consistent with their M beginnings...
08-20-2013, 07:07 PM
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My first was a E36 M3, Avus Blue. It was lightly optioned with manual seats and no sunroof and it weighed a little less than 3200 lbs. My E46 weighed just over 3400 lbs. When the E90 came out weighing in at over 3600 lbs I moved on. It seems BMW completely dismissed their roots in favor of comfort and amenities. It looks like introspection may have resulted in a better car consistent with their M beginnings...
08-20-2013, 10:08 PM
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My last BMW of 4 (the first was a new 2002) was an E36 M3 which I sold my 3.2 Carrera to purchase. Huge mistake. The M3 or M whatever are lovely cars but none is a substitute for a 911, IMHO.
08-21-2013, 04:14 AM
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08-21-2013, 06:34 PM
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Yet the F10 M5 was designed to have M-DCT only...but they added a stick option after the fact. As a result, most if not all reviews of the model have said that the incorporation of a stick seems to have been done after the fact and the feel of the car is disconnected.
08-22-2013, 02:57 AM
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Sources can be wrong. There will be a manual for the car, but to Q991's point...will it be any good?
08-22-2013, 12:59 PM
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Again looks great but I recently shared a garage at a trackday with a current M3 and it could only run 4-5 laps of PI before it had fried tyres, brakes and was overheating engine components etc... That was on an 18oC day... I've done 1 hour stints on a 35oC day... Different league without significant modification...
From the photos it looks like BMW/M have finally done something about the brake issue ... if it really is THAT light ... it might be a contender!
08-22-2013, 01:00 PM
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08-22-2013, 01:02 PM
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My first was a E36 M3, Avus Blue. It was lightly optioned with manual seats and no sunroof and it weighed a little less than 3200 lbs. My E46 weighed just over 3400 lbs. When the E90 came out weighing in at over 3600 lbs I moved on. It seems BMW completely dismissed their roots in favor of comfort and amenities. It looks like introspection may have resulted in a better car consistent with their M beginnings...
08-23-2013, 04:52 PM
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http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=879669
