Porsche's new philosophy with the GT3 according to AP
04-04-2017, 05:16 PM
#196
Nordschleife Master
New rules , at least in EU, dictate
a current not too old Porsche GT or alternatively 2 ordinary Porsche ownership or no .2GT3 allocation
and once got
at least 1 year ownership of new .2 GT3 or forget next GT
no way to sell over MSRP allocations here and country porsche hq (not dealers)
verifying if buyer meets requirements
a current not too old Porsche GT or alternatively 2 ordinary Porsche ownership or no .2GT3 allocation
and once got
at least 1 year ownership of new .2 GT3 or forget next GT
no way to sell over MSRP allocations here and country porsche hq (not dealers)
verifying if buyer meets requirements
04-04-2017, 05:19 PM
#197
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let s try this
anyone willing to buy a .2GT3 need to prove porsche that he owns at least 2 porsches or at least 1 GT porsche (cars before 997 do not meet requirements)
eventually you get a .2GT3 allocation the car need to be not resold before 1 year or forget next xxx GTx porsche
anyone willing to buy a .2GT3 need to prove porsche that he owns at least 2 porsches or at least 1 GT porsche (cars before 997 do not meet requirements)
eventually you get a .2GT3 allocation the car need to be not resold before 1 year or forget next xxx GTx porsche
04-05-2017, 09:32 AM
#198
04-05-2017, 10:05 AM
#199
Paul, in the video he was referring to an S2000 engine which in the case of the GT3 is closely related in the sense that both engines must be revved all the way out to redline to achieve the best torque in the next gear, so the gentleman in the video is correct.
Alternitavley, in the case of a Diesel engine, or a low down torque engine, it would be best to shift early as the torque curve is way down low in an RPM. That is why you hear these engines "loose puff" at the higher RPM and thus no reason to rev them all the way out, but that's not the case with a GT3 engine or an S2000 engine as in the video.
To make matters more complicated, in the case of Ferrari's new turbo engines, they wanted to achieve the feeling of a high revving engine where the feeling of torque being delivered at high RPM, so they limit the torque being delivered at the lower gears. This is the case as no one would want a Ferrari engine that "runs out of puff" at the higher RPMs.
Alternitavley, in the case of a Diesel engine, or a low down torque engine, it would be best to shift early as the torque curve is way down low in an RPM. That is why you hear these engines "loose puff" at the higher RPM and thus no reason to rev them all the way out, but that's not the case with a GT3 engine or an S2000 engine as in the video.
To make matters more complicated, in the case of Ferrari's new turbo engines, they wanted to achieve the feeling of a high revving engine where the feeling of torque being delivered at high RPM, so they limit the torque being delivered at the lower gears. This is the case as no one would want a Ferrari engine that "runs out of puff" at the higher RPMs.
04-05-2017, 12:39 PM
#200
Three Wheelin'
I think half of agree and half disagree on this subject! Should we set up a poll?
Funnily enough in this video even though he was suggesting you should shift at the point that makes the best use of the torque curve he still concluded you should shift at red line. Using his logic this would be wrong because the shift at red line doesn't take you back to the start of the flat torque plateau but to a few hundred revs above that. Trouble is in doing that he's experiencing the torque drop off in the last 500 before red line. So with his skew-of logic he's still coming up with the correct answer! Red line it baby!
Funnily enough in this video even though he was suggesting you should shift at the point that makes the best use of the torque curve he still concluded you should shift at red line. Using his logic this would be wrong because the shift at red line doesn't take you back to the start of the flat torque plateau but to a few hundred revs above that. Trouble is in doing that he's experiencing the torque drop off in the last 500 before red line. So with his skew-of logic he's still coming up with the correct answer! Red line it baby!
04-05-2017, 12:57 PM
#201
Three Wheelin'
Ok I've watched it again. Maybe he is saying the same thing as me, albeit in a more complicated way. He's having to do a two step process I.e. "shift based on torque curve but take into account the gear reduction" where he could have just said shift based on power curve.