STG

I've heard many dealers have twice amount the deposits down for the .2 than they had TOTAL 991.1 allocations. Demand will be unprecedented for .2 GT3.

Much bigger audience than the RS and R crowds too.

997rs4.0

Hmmm,

A lot of people are on many lists. Dealers really need to change the deposit rules when it comes to these cars.
10% non refundable would shorten these lists to real numbers.
Obviously get your money back if you don't get a car allocated. Which probably wouldn't happen because those that put down $15k non refundable are already committed to buy.

STG

I agree. Many have hedged their bets with multiple dealers and only planning on buying one car. The current "deposit" game varies by dealer and has no guarantees many times. Each dealer have their own rules. Many will get bumped for other big players who buy lots of cars.

Many guys on the sidelines too that want this car now too without any deposits down.

tstafford

While I see that logic, I think if people plunked down a $15-20K loan to a dealer they'd reasonably expect an allocation. And I'm not sure the dealers know. Seems like a recipe for really pissed off people.

Note: I agree that the "list" are likely full of many who won't actually pull the trigger. Barring something unforeseen I'll forego my allocation (which I'm quite sure I have) because the RS popped up and I pulled the trigger on that rather than wait on the .2. So I'm one of those people clogging up the lists. . .probably.

Lapis

According to information from PCNA to dealers yesterday, "Point of Sale: Mid September 2017", "Start of Production: CW28/2017*", and "* Start of Production for vehicles with manual transmission is CW36/2017 at the earliest".

So, the PDK cars, which will start production first, will begin deliveries in mid-Sept. 2017. Since manual cars will start production 8 weeks later than PDK cars "at the earliest", it seems reasonable to assume first manual car deliveries will trail first PDK car deliveries by the same amount of time, or mid-November 2017 at the earliest.

...which kind of sucks for customers in northern climates, since that means, realistically, even those with early allocations won't get their cars until it's too late to really enjoy them until spring 2018.

997rs4.0

That's the thing. After the dealer gets a big deposit he can punch in the order without the allocation. This will give Porsche a very good picture of how many cars they need to build.

As it is now.

There are probably 10000 US deposits but only 5000 potential buyers.

tstafford

Somehow I don't think Porsche is all that worried about matching supply w/ demand!

Larryf

As some of you mentioned the 918 allocations that exist ahead of you: we have two production years to decide if we want one. Many are not taking it over the R or waiting for 2019 MY to see what shakes out with options, changes etc. I passed for now and unless something drastically changes will most likely pass completely.

997rs4.0

Probably true. GT department has changed. Becoming more and more turbo sales philosophy. More cars and more options .

RDM2418

I saw the same info. My understanding is that 918 VIP allocations don't count against the dealer's total allocation which is based on number of cars sold the prior year. Maybe ask your dealer how many RS cars/GT3s they sold last year, and that will give you some indication of how many allocations they'll get based on sales volume before you put down a deposit. Even if you have a deposit down, the dealer is going to look at your purchase history and what you've sold back to them before. My sense is that some dealers are taking a lot more deposits than they can reasonably expect to get cars - at least in 2017.

montoya

Uh, oh. My friend has 4th spot there too. How can that be?

Clarify with Mazi. Sunset is honorable from what I can see and Mazi is a straight shooter. I regret now my business is not with them.

mass27

If that is accurate, and PAG only produces 4,000 units, over 1,000 buyers will not get a car. And this excludes the hundreds of people who buy the car without ever getting on the list.

It appears from reading these threads lately and contacting dealers that the demand far outstrips the potential supply. Then again, a lot of that is due to the frenzy of it being released yesterday and meeting most people's expectations.

I will keep hoping I get an allocation as I am small fish!

tstafford

Math isn't quite right. Some of the 4K are flippers who will sell to the 1K.

MM3.9GT3

Current perceived demand is greater than the perceived supply. That leads to a perceived scarcity, and results in short term price hikes (flipping over MSRP). Give it a year, and real demand, and real supply will reach an equilibrium (MSRP).

mass27

That may be true, but there are still only 4K original owners with a demand of 5K buyers. Flipping it only means 1K never really had a demand.