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Old 03-07-2017, 08:43 AM   #1
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Default So what does this mean for 991.1 RS??

Will there be another one? Seems unlikely as GT2RS is up next and the headway for an RS would be low. Someone needs to ask AP in Geneva. Today marks the bottom falling out of 991R and 997 manuals aS well as 991.1 GT3's. Very very lucky to have gotten rid of mine for sticker in the past months. And for all those who paid 50k over for 991 RS........
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:49 AM   #2
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I suspect will be seeing RS values drop to sticker by Spring/Summer time. As far as the R values, can't see that dropping to sticker. I think they will hold their value 50-100K over sticker for sometime.....which means I'll never own one :/
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:59 AM   #3
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Patiently waiting for the market impact on the 997.1 cars. $60-70k range? Then maybe stabilize in the upper 70s is my projection. There's nolonger any justification for $100k for those cars. Check book is out.
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Old 03-07-2017, 09:06 AM   #4
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There is a lesson to be learned, I guess. If you pay over sticker, you are playing with fire. Timing is crucial. Although, in fairness, the RS should still be a different animal than a .2 GT3.

I suspect Porsche will eventually make as many .2 GT3s it will take to just meet demand, ie Demand -1

If one can stand to wait, there should not be any unreasonable market adjustment on that car.
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Old 03-07-2017, 09:16 AM   #5
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Will take an RS at MSRP or the R at 50,000 over. Or just will get the new GT3.
Like the non tail and seats on the R and it is a numbered car. i guess that is worth
50,000 over MSRP.
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Old 03-07-2017, 09:18 AM   #6
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macca is already selling his RS - next to the street with a sign in.

everything will drop a bit - 997 RS┤s, 991.1RS, .1GT3 heavily. as long the .2GT3 will be available without limit. hopefully.
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Old 03-07-2017, 09:19 AM   #7
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There is a lesson to be learned, I guess. If you pay over sticker, you are playing with fire.
Playing with fire sounds pretty serious! I've had an RS for almost 6 months now and I can't even count the number of times it's made me smile. By the time most people actually have their hands on a .2 it will be roughly 12 months from the point I got that car. So I paid 20k more than I should have? Should I just keep waiting for the perfect price? Maybe buy a Macan or Cayenne and get burned on that depreciation?

I almost feel bad for the people who have held out over 20k and not been able to experience the same level of driving emotion that I've been able to. If you work really hard and have money to buy these kinds of cars, why deprive yourself of this?

It's not like those who have bought this car aren't going to be able to get something else if "better" presents itself in the future.

I like the idea of a .2 MT car to daily or do mountain drives, but RS is still an RS and it's the car I wanted; and it's the car I still want today. What has actually changed with the .2 announcement? We knew 4.0, we knew MT... it's still not an RS. Probably the best value sweetspot for these GT cars, but market adjustment will prove just as costly.
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Old 03-07-2017, 09:30 AM   #8
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I would be in the market for a .1 RS but in reading the significant revisions to the motor in the .2 GT3, it just confirms my thoughts on the flawed .1 motor design. I will keep driving my .1 hard and hope the CEL doesn't pop outside warranty period. :/
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Playing with fire sounds pretty serious! I've had an RS for almost 6 months now and I can't even count the number of times it's made me smile. By the time most people actually have their hands on a .2 it will be roughly 12 months from the point I got that car. So I paid 20k more than I should have? Should I just keep waiting for the perfect price? Maybe buy a Macan or Cayenne and get burned on that depreciation?

I almost feel bad for the people who have held out over 20k and not been able to experience the same level of driving emotion that I've been able to. If you work really hard and have money to buy these kinds of cars, why deprive yourself of this?

It's not like those who have bought this car aren't going to be able to get something else if "better" presents itself in the future.

I like the idea of a .2 MT car to daily or do mountain drives, but RS is still an RS and it's the car I wanted; and it's the car I still want today. What has actually changed with the .2 announcement? We knew 4.0, we knew MT... it's still not an RS. Probably the best value sweetspot for these GT cars, but market adjustment will prove just as costly.
I think that's the key.

If I had an RS, I wouldn't lose sleep.

I think the bottom line is to not approach these cars as investments. I did the GT thing and decided I really wanted a Turbo. So I'm doing it, knowing I'll get killed in depreciation. But I'm not interested in driving an investment and the GT cars, as awesome as they are, don't fit in with my lifestyle and needs (ie backseat).

The point is - know that paying over sticker means you could lose that market adjustment money on resale for many/most of these cars. Otherwise, play on.
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I don't see the bottom falling out of anything anytime soon
markets are up
money is loose
4000 + GT3 gen 2 will not kill the market but -10% across the board is likely
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I suspect will be seeing RS values drop to sticker by Spring/Summer time. As far as the R values, can't see that dropping to sticker. I think they will hold their value 50-100K over sticker for sometime.....which means I'll never own one :/
Feels about right. Although I think the R will hold better than that. The numbered car thing matters to enough people to keep that market stable. If it was purely about the performance the .2 GTS would be destroying the value of all of these cars! (Somewhat kidding on the GTS, but not totally.)
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I don't see the bottom falling out of anything anytime soon
markets are up
money is loose
4000 + GT3 gen 2 will not kill the market but -10% across the board is likely
Hope so. Still absolutely in love with my PTS .1 that I literally just bought and I knew I wasn't going to get an allocation for a .2 anytime soon anyways but still slightly annoying to have confirmation that they've made the perfect car lol. Can't wait to see the specs people will be locking in on this board and maybe I'll be ready to join the fun late '18/'19!
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I wonder if there will be a .2 GT3RS with all these models coming out.
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Can't see how anyone will buy a 991R over the 991.2gt3!

MT 4.0l engine that revs to 9k. That says it all.
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I wonder if there will be a .2 GT3RS with all these models coming out.
History would say yes. But no formal announcement so far.
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