Side muffler bypass volume at WOT
#1
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Side muffler bypass volume at WOT
There are many threads and comments that the Side Mufflers are louder and many comments that they produce drone. This is to be expected at below 4000rpm.
However, in the OEM setup, when the valves open, would the exhaust flow not take the path of least resistance and all go out the center muffler only. IN addition, given the upper inlet on the factory center muffler has more baffling and is smaller in diameter, when the valve is open I would assume that all the flow is out the lower larger inlet that has minimal baffling.
Therefore, it would appear that the Side bypass should only be louder than OEM below 4000rpm, but after that the exhaust flow should be the same (bypassing the side mufflers and out the lower inlet of the Rear center).
Does anyone who has side bypasses notice more sound even at WOT, or just when the valves would normally be closed? Any objective measurements at tracks showing the side bypasses result in higher peak dBA?
Also, in theory, the TPC and Fabspeed valved side deletes should not have peak volumes any louder than stock as there should not be flow through the side mufflers at WOT. But if they are louder, it would imply that the side mufflers still have some flow at WOT.
Would like to get some side deletes but worried about not passing sound on certain tracks.
However, in the OEM setup, when the valves open, would the exhaust flow not take the path of least resistance and all go out the center muffler only. IN addition, given the upper inlet on the factory center muffler has more baffling and is smaller in diameter, when the valve is open I would assume that all the flow is out the lower larger inlet that has minimal baffling.
Therefore, it would appear that the Side bypass should only be louder than OEM below 4000rpm, but after that the exhaust flow should be the same (bypassing the side mufflers and out the lower inlet of the Rear center).
Does anyone who has side bypasses notice more sound even at WOT, or just when the valves would normally be closed? Any objective measurements at tracks showing the side bypasses result in higher peak dBA?
Also, in theory, the TPC and Fabspeed valved side deletes should not have peak volumes any louder than stock as there should not be flow through the side mufflers at WOT. But if they are louder, it would imply that the side mufflers still have some flow at WOT.
Would like to get some side deletes but worried about not passing sound on certain tracks.
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There are many threads and comments that the Side Mufflers are louder and many comments that they produce drone. This is to be expected at below 4000rpm.
However, in the OEM setup, when the valves open, would the exhaust flow not take the path of least resistance and all go out the center muffler only. IN addition, given the upper inlet on the factory center muffler has more baffling and is smaller in diameter, when the valve is open I would assume that all the flow is out the lower larger inlet that has minimal baffling.
Therefore, it would appear that the Side bypass should only be louder than OEM below 4000rpm, but after that the exhaust flow should be the same (bypassing the side mufflers and out the lower inlet of the Rear center).
Does anyone who has side bypasses notice more sound even at WOT, or just when the valves would normally be closed? Any objective measurements at tracks showing the side bypasses result in higher peak dBA?
Also, in theory, the TPC and Fabspeed valved side deletes should not have peak volumes any louder than stock as there should not be flow through the side mufflers at WOT. But if they are louder, it would imply that the side mufflers still have some flow at WOT.
Would like to get some side deletes but worried about not passing sound on certain tracks.
However, in the OEM setup, when the valves open, would the exhaust flow not take the path of least resistance and all go out the center muffler only. IN addition, given the upper inlet on the factory center muffler has more baffling and is smaller in diameter, when the valve is open I would assume that all the flow is out the lower larger inlet that has minimal baffling.
Therefore, it would appear that the Side bypass should only be louder than OEM below 4000rpm, but after that the exhaust flow should be the same (bypassing the side mufflers and out the lower inlet of the Rear center).
Does anyone who has side bypasses notice more sound even at WOT, or just when the valves would normally be closed? Any objective measurements at tracks showing the side bypasses result in higher peak dBA?
Also, in theory, the TPC and Fabspeed valved side deletes should not have peak volumes any louder than stock as there should not be flow through the side mufflers at WOT. But if they are louder, it would imply that the side mufflers still have some flow at WOT.
Would like to get some side deletes but worried about not passing sound on certain tracks.
Here's a video link of a 997.2 RS with 4.0L engine build, Cup 100-cell cats, and TPC side muffler bypass pipes. Its not that loud at all.
https://instagram.com/p/BO3Hc5KhStO/
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Hi Tom,
Thanks for your reply. On your website it says "Better exhaust flow management allows for increased torque between 2,600 and 5,600 rpm, as well as increased horsepower between 5-8,250 rpm."
Do you have before and after dynos that quantify these gains?
Thanks
Thanks for your reply. On your website it says "Better exhaust flow management allows for increased torque between 2,600 and 5,600 rpm, as well as increased horsepower between 5-8,250 rpm."
Do you have before and after dynos that quantify these gains?
Thanks
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There are many threads and comments that the Side Mufflers are louder and many comments that they produce drone. This is to be expected at below 4000rpm.
However, in the OEM setup, when the valves open, would the exhaust flow not take the path of least resistance and all go out the center muffler only. IN addition, given the upper inlet on the factory center muffler has more baffling and is smaller in diameter, when the valve is open I would assume that all the flow is out the lower larger inlet that has minimal baffling.
Therefore, it would appear that the Side bypass should only be louder than OEM below 4000rpm, but after that the exhaust flow should be the same (bypassing the side mufflers and out the lower inlet of the Rear center).
Does anyone who has side bypasses notice more sound even at WOT, or just when the valves would normally be closed? Any objective measurements at tracks showing the side bypasses result in higher peak dBA?
Also, in theory, the TPC and Fabspeed valved side deletes should not have peak volumes any louder than stock as there should not be flow through the side mufflers at WOT. But if they are louder, it would imply that the side mufflers still have some flow at WOT.
Would like to get some side deletes but worried about not passing sound on certain tracks.
However, in the OEM setup, when the valves open, would the exhaust flow not take the path of least resistance and all go out the center muffler only. IN addition, given the upper inlet on the factory center muffler has more baffling and is smaller in diameter, when the valve is open I would assume that all the flow is out the lower larger inlet that has minimal baffling.
Therefore, it would appear that the Side bypass should only be louder than OEM below 4000rpm, but after that the exhaust flow should be the same (bypassing the side mufflers and out the lower inlet of the Rear center).
Does anyone who has side bypasses notice more sound even at WOT, or just when the valves would normally be closed? Any objective measurements at tracks showing the side bypasses result in higher peak dBA?
Also, in theory, the TPC and Fabspeed valved side deletes should not have peak volumes any louder than stock as there should not be flow through the side mufflers at WOT. But if they are louder, it would imply that the side mufflers still have some flow at WOT.
Would like to get some side deletes but worried about not passing sound on certain tracks.
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