991.2 GT3 Dealer lists
09-29-2016, 10:33 AM
#1
991.2 GT3 Dealer lists
Seems like people are already piling on the lists for this car. From what I can tell there's dealers taking deposits for $1k up to 10% of the vehicle value, then there's dealers taking deposits but won't gurantee MSRP just "market value". I'm 9th on my local dealer list, they got 6 allocations of the 991.1 GT3, is there even a realistic chance I'd get an allocation? Another dealer near me has 29 people on their list. Anyone know of another dealer near Philadelphia or nearby states that have allocation lists for MSRP without so many people on them? Thanks!
09-29-2016, 10:42 AM
#2
Three Wheelin'
LoL, "market value". Ridiculous. If you putting down a deposit and get an allocation then you should pay msrp. Dealers getting bolder and bolder by the minute in this market.
I'm #4 on my dealer list and last I heard it was over 50 ppl long.
I'm #4 on my dealer list and last I heard it was over 50 ppl long.
09-29-2016, 10:42 AM
#3
This topic along with the future FMV of the GT3/RS is the most discussed topic here. From what I have read (and it's way too much), it appears that being on a "list" is meaningless because:
1. It depends on how many GT cars PAG builds
2. It depends on how many GT cars your specific dealer gets
3. Market Value depends on both #1 & #2 (and many other economic items)
4. There are hundreds of examples of people being on a list, then depending on #3, the allocation is sold to someone else who pays more.
5. All of the above further depends on the philosophy and mentality of most GT owners/dealers. For example, currently, you can't keep track of the the GT cars being sold back and forth with each transaction trying to make another $. When this occurs, the car is more of a commodity, than what it is SUPPOSED to be: a luxury, depreciating, asset.
Bottom line, I think I am in a similar situation as you. I had an allocation, it was sold to someone else. I hope to get an allocation for the 991.2, but based on the items I listed above, to put any faith in all the "stars aligning" including all my own personal situations (job, family, income, etc.), is foolish.
I think one of the smarter things to do right now is wait. Seven years ago during the beginning of the recession, you couldn't even sell luxury items. That will occur again.
Sorry for the seemingly verbose and off-topic response.
Wish us luck!
1. It depends on how many GT cars PAG builds
2. It depends on how many GT cars your specific dealer gets
3. Market Value depends on both #1 & #2 (and many other economic items)
4. There are hundreds of examples of people being on a list, then depending on #3, the allocation is sold to someone else who pays more.
5. All of the above further depends on the philosophy and mentality of most GT owners/dealers. For example, currently, you can't keep track of the the GT cars being sold back and forth with each transaction trying to make another $. When this occurs, the car is more of a commodity, than what it is SUPPOSED to be: a luxury, depreciating, asset.
Bottom line, I think I am in a similar situation as you. I had an allocation, it was sold to someone else. I hope to get an allocation for the 991.2, but based on the items I listed above, to put any faith in all the "stars aligning" including all my own personal situations (job, family, income, etc.), is foolish.
I think one of the smarter things to do right now is wait. Seven years ago during the beginning of the recession, you couldn't even sell luxury items. That will occur again.
Sorry for the seemingly verbose and off-topic response.
Wish us luck!
09-29-2016, 11:21 AM
#5
Yea the market has gotten insane, I remember in 2009 you could actually get a discount on GT cars at my local dealer. My hope is some people on the list get second thoughts 😇
09-29-2016, 12:38 PM
#6
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09-29-2016, 01:19 PM
#10
Burning Brakes
This will not end well....
09-29-2016, 01:45 PM
#11
Intermediate
Waiting list of GT cars means nothing these day. Too many people want these cars. They won't give you car by your position in the list, they won't even have a car for you if they don't have enough allocations.
I belive for most of dealerships, it works like this:
1. How many Porsches you have bought from them
2. Whether you trading in GT cars to them
3. Your relation with the dealership.
4. Waiting list, that's the last thing they would consider, and only if they have extra cars.
I belive for most of dealerships, it works like this:
1. How many Porsches you have bought from them
2. Whether you trading in GT cars to them
3. Your relation with the dealership.
4. Waiting list, that's the last thing they would consider, and only if they have extra cars.
09-29-2016, 01:58 PM
#12
Waiting list of GT cars means nothing these day. Too many people want these cars. They won't give you car by your position in the list, they won't even have a car for you if they don't have enough allocations.
I belive for most of dealerships, it works like this:
1. How many Porsches you have bought from them
2. Whether you trading in GT cars to them
3. Your relation with the dealership.
4. Waiting list, that's the last thing they would consider, and only if they have extra cars.
I belive for most of dealerships, it works like this:
1. How many Porsches you have bought from them
2. Whether you trading in GT cars to them
3. Your relation with the dealership.
4. Waiting list, that's the last thing they would consider, and only if they have extra cars.
1. This presupposes that everyone on Rennlist (or on this planet) has disposable income to actually purchase multiple, expensive Porsches often. Although it appears this is the norm here, I am pretty sure it's the vast minority of actual Porsche purchasers.
2. Basically the same as #1 - If you can't do #1, you won't do #2
3. This is the most misused phrase I have heard here. "Establish a relationship" with your dealer (or anyone, any business, any customer, any vendor, etc.) is not defined with one side of the relationship holding the asset and making the decision of price. That is not a relationship. This phrase needs to be eliminated as #1 is the ONLY thing that matters in "establishing a relationship" with your dealer. Going one step further, the dealership needs to make significant money on you in some format.
4. Yes!
09-29-2016, 01:58 PM
#13
I'm new to Porsche so I am feeling the chaos of all of this allocation / msrp/ vip list insanity.
I live in the Dallas area and of the 3 dealers here:
#1 has basically said there is no chance for me to get a GT3 allocation or get it at MSRP (they recommend I buy used and then trade it in lol)
#2 said they would take a deposit but can't guarantee anything and that there were 15 people on the list
#3 said they take no deposit and don't play favorites and only sell at MSRP but had 30 on the wait list (I'm sure there is some BS going on there)
Basically, I reached out to a few out of state dealers and explained the situation (new to Porsche, need MSRP, want to buy new, blah blah). They took a $2,500 deposit and said I was #1 on their list (small city dealer) but the first two GT3s would go to their VIPs regardless. Also they would sell at MSRP. They got 6 991.1 GT3s so I hope it works out. I paid them a visit since a friend's wedding I traveled to last weekend was close to the dealership and spoke with the GM and sales person just out of courtesy. Lots of footwork, calling, etc. but if you don't try you won't win!
I live in the Dallas area and of the 3 dealers here:
#1 has basically said there is no chance for me to get a GT3 allocation or get it at MSRP (they recommend I buy used and then trade it in lol)
#2 said they would take a deposit but can't guarantee anything and that there were 15 people on the list
#3 said they take no deposit and don't play favorites and only sell at MSRP but had 30 on the wait list (I'm sure there is some BS going on there)
Basically, I reached out to a few out of state dealers and explained the situation (new to Porsche, need MSRP, want to buy new, blah blah). They took a $2,500 deposit and said I was #1 on their list (small city dealer) but the first two GT3s would go to their VIPs regardless. Also they would sell at MSRP. They got 6 991.1 GT3s so I hope it works out. I paid them a visit since a friend's wedding I traveled to last weekend was close to the dealership and spoke with the GM and sales person just out of courtesy. Lots of footwork, calling, etc. but if you don't try you won't win!
09-29-2016, 02:24 PM
#15
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Waiting list of GT cars means nothing these day. Too many people want these cars. They won't give you car by your position in the list, they won't even have a car for you if they don't have enough allocations.
I belive for most of dealerships, it works like this:
1. How many Porsches you have bought from them
2. Whether you trading in GT cars to them
3. Your relation with the dealership.
4. Waiting list, that's the last thing they would consider, and only if they have extra cars.
I belive for most of dealerships, it works like this:
1. How many Porsches you have bought from them
2. Whether you trading in GT cars to them
3. Your relation with the dealership.
4. Waiting list, that's the last thing they would consider, and only if they have extra cars.
Although to add to #3. Your relation with the dealership owner
Is my saving grace,
