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911R - Summary of PTS vs Total 911R Allocations for each Porsche market in the World

Old 07-10-2016, 02:29 PM
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Default 911R - Summary of PTS vs Total 911R Allocations for each Porsche market in the World

Total 911R to be built for entire world: 991 (confirmed by PAG)

Total PTS 911R in the run: 50 (reported to us from various sources)

Allocations per countries (per latest 7/12 input from Rennlisters)

USA PTS allocations: 15? / US total 911R allocations: 245/250?
Canada PTS allocations: 2 / Canada total 911R allocations: 26?
France PTS allocations: 1+ / France total 911R allocations: 24
Germany PTS allocations: ?/ Germany total 911R allocations: ?
Italy PTS allocations: 0 / Italy total 911R allocations: 33
Switzerland PTS allocations ?/ Switzerland total 911R allocations: ?
Great Britain PTS allocations: ?/ Great Britain total 911R allocations: 30 or 65?
Saudi Arabia PTS allocations 1 / Saudi Arabia total 911R allocation: 1
United Arab Emirates PTS allocation ?/United Arab Emirates 7
Australia PTS allocation 3 / Australia total 911R allocation: 25 or 26?

This count (above) will be updated with the latest information provided
by our members & readers, so we will try to keep it current always!


We need to know about other countries/markets re: total 911R allocations
vs PTS 911R allocations. We encourage anyone with information to post
& share what you have heard. Thank you.

****
We started this survey on this other thread in early July of 2016:

911R Availability
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...ilability.html

We also will monitor these other 911R threads for relevant content to
the total number of 911R allocations vs PTS 911R allocations for each
Porsche country market:

911R PTS
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...-911r-pts.html

OT:911R
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...9-ot-911r.html

CXX Options on 911R
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...s-on-911r.html

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We are trying to get a definite & accurate count of 911R allocations
by individual country & PTS 911R allocations for each Porsche market!
We thank everyone that has, or will, contribute to this survey. I helps
make our forum more authoritative on this topic...and provides helpful
information to our community & non-affiliated readers that come to
Rennlist to get accurate reporting on these matters.

********************

So far here are the recent posts that have started us counting 911R
allocations by countries & PTS allocations of 911R for each:

Originally Posted by grahal09
I have a PTS coming and have been offered 300k over.
Mine is not available though. But i would say 200 for
standard, 300 for PTS if its real. Only 14 people got
PTS, so there isn't many.
Originally Posted by Z356
The figures I have heard is that 50 is the number of
'true'* PTS 911R's world-wide out of the 991 units to
be built in total. The 14 quoted by Graham might
refer to the 'true' PTS 911Rs allocated to US customers.
But hopefully he will explain how he got those numbers
on his post.

I would be interested in knowing if those low numbers
for the US market are correct...or just speculation.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Presently in Vail, Colorado

*'True' PTS as define when customer is able to choose
any of the colors already approved by PAG & included
in their 'list'.
Originally Posted by Z356
A follow up on my post. I have received a pm from a
well-connected 911R Porsche customer (who wants to
remain anonymous), which reads as follows:

"Number are from PAG and PCNA.
50 True PTS cars worldwide and 14 USA.
"

Follow up questions:

a) Of the 991 911R's to be built, how many were
ultimately allocated to US clients?

b) How many to Canadian clients? German? French? etc.

I have heard the estimates for the US and Canada. It
would be interesting to document what else is known
on how these in demand 911R were allocated by PAG
per individual world market, per PTS for market, etc.

If anyone else has more information on any of the
above, please post on Rennlist or email or pm me.
Thanks.

Saludos,
Eduardo
Vail, Colorado

PS. Suitcase. Excellent post above. Thank you for
that!
Originally Posted by Targa75
I am a lucky french future owner of a true PTS 991 R
and I believe that We are 24 lucky guys in France. I do
not know of it is Monaco included
Originally Posted by lessthan3mph
I think 2 pts r in Canada with rumoured total 26 cars
(but possibly a few more).
Originally Posted by lessthan3mph
Not sure of specifics of distribution. But here's what
I've heard so far. There are 3 in my dealership in BC,
no true PTS. I imagine large share went to ON and
good bet that one PTS is in GTA but really not sure.

R slot and chance at PTS in Canada was offered
based on 918 purchase order so PTS will go to
earliest 918 Canadian customers. 918 buyers
seem to have bought virtually all Canadian cars
apparently. Others are much more knowledgeable
than me.
Originally Posted by Z356
Forget about Monaco...24 PTS 911Rs in France? Sacré bleu!
Or should I have said 'Sacré Blau'?
Sébastien, how many 911R in total were allocated to France?
You guys rock...and have quite a bit of pull at PAG!



*****

Total 911R to be built: 991

Total PTS 911R in run: 50

US PTS allocations: 14 / US total 911R allocations: ?
Canada PTS allocations: 2 /Canada total 911R allocations: 26?
France PTS allocations: 24 /France total 911R allocations: ?
Germany PTS allocations: ? /Germany total 911R allocations: ?
Italy PTS allocations: ? /Italy total 911R allocations: ?
Great Britain allocations: ? /Great Britain total 911R allocations: ?
Plus other European markets, Middle East, Asia, Australia, Kiwiland,
etc.

We need assistance in completing this survey.
Please post or pm what you know about total
allocations for 911R & True PTS 911R in your
country. Danke!

Saludos,
Eduardo
Vail, Colorado
Originally Posted by lessthan3mph
Eduardo, I suspect that Targa75 meant it was 24 R for France,
not 24 PTS. If 24 PTS, then you already have accounted for
40/50 PTS, without even including Germany, UK, Switzerland,
Italy, Middle east, etc. I would think that 10 cars for all those
and other territories is too few. PTS must have been tightly
controlled by PAG itself, and I would have been shocked if
they would let half go to one country. Just my opinion.
Originally Posted by KSAF
1 911R allocated for Saudi Arabia and its a true PTS.
Originally Posted by Larabee
I believe there is only 3 PTS 911R in Oz...i am one of not only
the very fortunate and extremely grateful allocations of the 911R,
but one of rare and privileged PTS 911R's..locked and loaded and
very excited to see it in the flesh when it arrives..dare to say i will
be collecting it with tequila and a sombrero
Originally Posted by Z356
You are obviously right Daniel. I am sure Targa75 will chime in
& set me straight!****

Thank you Gents.

Total 911R to be built: 991

Total PTS 911R in run: 50

US PTS allocations: 14 / US total 911R allocations: ?
Canada PTS allocations: 2 /Canada total 911R allocations: 26?
France PTS allocations: 1+ /France total 911R allocations: 24
Germany PTS allocations: ? /Germany total 911R allocations: ?
Italy PTS allocations: ? /Italy total 911R allocations: ?
Great Britain PTS allocations: ? /Great Britain total 911R allocations: ?
Saudi Arabia PTS allocations 1 /Saudi Arabia total 911R allocation 1
Australia PTS allocation 3 /Australia total 911R allocation ?

Keep the info coming...Thanks!
Originally Posted by DJM48
Hi Eduardo

I understand there are 25 or 26 R cars coming to Australia
Originally Posted by GT3RS 991R
I have one of the 30 allocated for the UK

Factory Collection on the 16th Sept.
Originally Posted by Z356
Gents: Thanks for the feedback!

***

Second follow up to my previous post:

"Number are from PAG and PCNA.
50 True PTS cars worldwide and 14 USA.
"

I received a subsequent pm from the same source that
provided the numbers listed above. And he writes:

"All I know and have been quoted is that about
30% allocated to US...I mis quoted the PTS for
US. Its 14 for NA/PCNA. 2 for Canada and 12
for USA.
"

Would love to have confirmation from other sources
as for US total 911R allocations and whether the
number of PTS you have heard is 12 or 14.

****So latest revised totals are as follows:

Total 911R to be built: 991

Total PTS 911R in run: 50

US PTS allocations: 12 / US total 911R allocations: 297?
Canada PTS allocations: 2 / Canada total 911R allocations: 26?
France PTS allocations: 1+ / France total 911R allocations: 24
Germany PTS allocations: ?/ Germany total 911R allocations: ?
Italy PTS allocations: ? / Italy total 911R allocations: ?
Great Britain PTS allocations: 1+/ Great Britain total 911R allocations: 30
Saudi Arabia PTS allocations 1 / Saudi Arabia total 911R allocation: 1
Australia PTS allocation 3 / Australia total 911R allocation: 25 or 26

I don't want to hijack the OP's thread...so let's continue this conversation
on a new one!

Saludos,
Eduardo
Presently in Vail, Colorado
Originally Posted by bronson7
Interesting info. As Eduardo said, keep them coming.
Originally Posted by Cazooch
I've heard there are 65 coming to the UK and none
are true PTS. One I know is LO/Matt White Stripes

Porsche UK blocked true PTS so we were offered
two main colours with a limited window on Yellow,
Black and Lava
Cazooch:
Can you double check your sources to resolve
why some have heard 30 911R in total for UK
vs the 65 911R total for UK number you report.
Thank you. Interesting side note of PorscheUK
blocking true PTS for its market. We will have
to explore that further...

We still need confirmation, or at least more
reports, of total allocation of 911R for the USA.
Is it low 200 or high 200? We need more input
from our readers on this.

Saludos,
Eduardo
Presently enjoying my last day in cool Vail
Colorado before I return to steamy Scottsdale,
Arizona!

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Old 07-10-2016, 04:11 PM
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Hi,

Silverstone Porsche Experience Centre have 65 experience drives booked. I know COLCHESTER are getting 4, Silverstone and Reading 3, South Coast 1 and Mid Sussex 2 so far. Not sure about other centres but as we have 30+ OPC's with three above getting 10 then it's obviously more than 30. Mayfair and East London surely have at least 2 each.
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Hi,

For the United Arab Emirates market there will be 7 (nos) 911R allocated but no information if any are PTS.

Regards
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Italy PTS allocations: 0 / Italy total 911R allocations: 33

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There are more than 12 PTS in the US. 15 in total, including 1 for a non-918 owner who is very well connected and happens to be friends with one of the current executive and board member. Originally PAG granted 14 PTS for 14 918 owners. Then he got added on at the very last minute by the instruction of the Porsche board member, where the extra PTS allocation was granted directly from PAG. It caused quite a stir within PCNA when this happened. He also happens to own a very special one of one Rennsport V 991 GTS.

It's a fascinating story on how the US PTS selection process happened. Special handshakes and all

While I don't have an exact figure o the total 911R allocations in the US, it's somewhere around 245-250 cars in total. 297 is the total number 918 cars sold in the US, but over the course of the time, some of the 918 owners got kicked out of the VIP program.
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Originally Posted by unotaz
some of the 918 owners got kicked out of the VIP program.
oooh do tell.
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Don't know where you got that information from. But I believe u are really off with the number..

Originally Posted by Gt3rsfan
Hi,

For the United Arab Emirates market there will be 7 (nos) 911R allocated but no information if any are PTS.

Regards
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Originally Posted by unotaz
There are more than 12 PTS in the US. 15 in total, including 1 for a non-918 owner who is very well connected and happens to be friends with one of the current executive and board member. Originally PAG granted 14 PTS for 14 918 owners. Then he got added on at the very last minute by the instruction of the Porsche board member, where the extra PTS allocation was granted directly from PAG. It caused quite a stir within PCNA when this happened. He also happens to own a very special one of one Rennsport V 991 GTS.

It's a fascinating story on how the US PTS selection process happened. Special handshakes and all

While I don't have an exact figure o the total 911R allocations in the US, it's somewhere around 245-250 cars in total. 297 is the total number 918 cars sold in the US, but over the course of the time, some of the 918 owners got kicked out of the VIP program.

Hello unotaz,

In reference to the 918 owners "kicked out", are those the ones that flipped their 918 Spyders? If so I thought they have three years preferential treatment if they kept their 918 for at least a year of ownership?

Drive safe.
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Originally Posted by GT3RS-Fan1
Hello unotaz,

In reference to the 918 owners "kicked out", are those the ones that flipped their 918 Spyders? If so I thought they have three years preferential treatment if they kept their 918 for at least a year of ownership?

Drive safe.
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Some people got their VIP rights removed because they sold their 918 under 6 months of ownership. The program requires you to own the car for more than 6 months to get 3 years of privilege.

Some people got kicked out of the VIP program because Porsche caught them flipping their other cars in under 6 months (eg. GT3RS, GT4 and etc).
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Originally Posted by Z356
Total 911R to be built for entire world: 991 (confirmed by PAG)

Total PTS 911R in the run: 50 (reported to us from various sources)

Allocations per countries

USA PTS allocations: 12 / US total 911R allocations: 297?
Canada PTS allocations: 2 / Canada total 911R allocations: 26?
France PTS allocations: 1+ / France total 911R allocations: 24
Germany PTS allocations: ?/ Germany total 911R allocations: ?
Italy PTS allocations: ? / Italy total 911R allocations: ?
Switzerland PTS allocations ?/ Switzerland total 911R allocations: ?
Great Britain PTS allocations: 1+/ Great Britain total 911R allocations: 30 or 65?
Saudi Arabia PTS allocations 1 / Saudi Arabia total 911R allocation: 1
Australia PTS allocation 3 / Australia total 911R allocation: 25 or 26

This count (above) will be updated with the latest information provided
by our members & readers, so we will try to keep it current always!

We need to know about other countries/markets re: total 911R allocations
vs PTS 911R allocations. We encourage anyone with information to post
& share what you have heard. Thank you.

****
We started this survey on this other thread in early July of 2016:

911R Availability
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...ilability.html

We also will monitor these other 911R threads for relevant content to
the total number of 911R allocations vs PTS 911R allocations for each
Porsche country market:

911R PTS
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...-911r-pts.html

OT:911R
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...9-ot-911r.html

CXX Options on 911R
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...s-on-911r.html

***

We are trying to get a definite & accurate count of 911R allocations
by individual country & PTS 911R allocations for each Porsche market!
We thank everyone that has, or will, contribute to this survey. I helps
make our forum more authoritative on this topic...and provides helpful
information to our community & non-affiliated readers that come to
Rennlist to get accurate reporting on these matters.

********************

So far here are the recent posts that have started us counting 911R
allocations by countries & PTS allocations of 911R for each:
































Cazooch:
Can you double check your sources to resolve
why some have heard 30 911R in total for UK
vs the 65 911R total for UK number you report.
Thank you. Interesting side note of PorscheUK
blocking true PTS for its market. We will have
to explore that further...

We still need confirmation, or at least more
reports, of total allocation of 911R for the USA.
Is it low 200 or high 200? We need more input
from our readers on this.

Saludos,
Eduardo
Presently enjoying my last day in cool Vail
Colorado before I return to steamy Scottsdale,
Arizona!
Don't think the 65 no is correct UK, as is nos for some OPCs, also info for PTS is not correct......
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Originally Posted by maxt
Italy PTS allocations: 0 / Italy total 911R allocations: 33
Thank you!

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Originally Posted by Cazooch
Hi,

Silverstone Porsche Experience Centre have 65 experience
drives booked. I know COLCHESTER are getting 4, Silverstone
and Reading 3, South Coast 1 and Mid Sussex 2 so far. Not
sure about other centres but as we have 30+ OPC's with
three above getting 10 then it's obviously more than 30.
Mayfair and East London surely have at least 2 each.
Originally Posted by Apolo1
Don't think the 65 no is correct UK, as is nos for some OPCs,
also info for PTS is not correct......
Can we get some consensus as to what is the # of total 911R
allocations in Great Britain & whether there are any PTS 911R
in that number? Thanks.

****

Originally Posted by Gt3rsfan
For the United Arab Emirates market there will be 7 (nos)
911R allocated but no information if any are PTS.

Regards
Originally Posted by MoeGt3
Don't know where you got that information from.
But I believe u are really off with the number..
Same. Can we get some definite 911R allocation numbers
for the United Arab Emirates & whether any of them are
PTS? Danke!

*****
Originally Posted by unotaz
There are more than 12 PTS in the US. 15 in total,
including 1 for a non-918 owner who is very well
connected and happens to be friends with one of
the current executive and board member...While
I don't have an exact figure o the total 911R
allocations in the US, it's somewhere around
245-250 cars in total. 297 is the total number
918 cars sold in the US, but over the course
of the time, some of the 918 owners got kicked
out of the VIP program.
We will explore how/why some 918 owners got kicked off the
VIP program at some future time (it's a fascinating subject).
But first, let's try to see if we can get consensus on total #
of 911R allocations for USA & whether we have 12, 14 or
15 allocations of PTS 911R for just the USA (sans Canada).

So if anyone else in the know can chime in...please do so!
It is all greatly appreciated!



Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale, AZ
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Originally Posted by Apolo1
Don't think the 65 no is correct UK, as is nos for some OPCs, also info for PTS is not correct......
Apolo What is your number then? I've qutoed what I have been told by Reading, Silverstone and Colchester OPC's and how many PEC experiences are booked. AndyB after much trying was not allowed PTS.

Be great to know what you know rather than guessing stuff might not be correct?
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On Great Britain numbers

My car is from Guildford OPC, was told there were only 30 uk cars.
But they had an allocation of 2 cars, mine which is white with green whilst the second car is black.

So 65 could be right if most uk OPC get 2 cars.
I have also booked in to Silverstone for the driver experience.
Just happy I got a car
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Originally Posted by GT3RS 991R
On Great Britain numbers

My car is from Guildford OPC, was told there were only 30 uk cars.
But they had an allocation of 2 cars, mine which is white with green whilst the second car is black.

So 65 could be right if most uk OPC get 2 cars.
I have also booked in to Silverstone for the driver experience.
Just happy I got a car
Think the 30 figure, got revised. Also some OPCs only got one car. Like you just happy I have a car......
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Originally Posted by Apolo1
Think the 30 figure, got revised. Also some OPCs only got one car. Like you just happy I have a car......
I know of a couple of OPC's in the UK who didn't get any allocation!

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