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View Poll Results: Should the PTS approved colour list be freely available and not confidential?
YES, potential customers should be able to review this information (even if one doesn't choose PTS).
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NO, dealerships and Exclusive should maintain this list confidentially.
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Old 05-05-2016, 12:06 PM
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This should be easy. Are you in favour of de-classifying the official PTS lists? (Currently they are all being kept "Confidential" and not for distribution to us customers.)
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Not surprised there's atleast one that chose to keep it confidential.
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I'm still waiting for the Porsche Surprise Me option for a $7k discount. No reveal until you sign the paperwork.
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Originally Posted by consolidated
I'm still waiting for the Porsche Surprise Me option for a $7k discount. No reveal until you sign the paperwork.

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PAG really need to calm down and hire some real consultants. yes now they doing well, but they keep doing this, then end will not be pretty.

confidential pts list? WTF... is this even making sense?
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Perhaps worried about competition not their customers? Yes/no?
Old 05-06-2016, 01:38 AM
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No. They prob think why publish a list and encourage it when they can only produce when all the stars align.

Or they just like annoying RL PTS seekers
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Thanks everyone for voting and for your comments!
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Originally Posted by signes
No. They prob think why publish a list and encourage it when they can only produce when all the stars align.

Or they just like annoying RL PTS seekers
no, just make PTS a $100k option, they will not be painting many if any.
it's really simple problem to solve.
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I bet the 918 customers will have no problem paying the $100K. Chump change. For the rest of us White will be zero $ option
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I wonder if anyone did the liquid silver on a 3RS just because they wanted it to match their 918 and they had crazy jack burning a hole in their pockets
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Mind Boggling: PAG, pick 20 colors from the PTS list, charge $10,000 as an option. Done. Want a super special color? $15,000

Ferrari charges $12,500 for OUT OF RANGE COLOR (PAG PTS) paint colors and $26,500 for true PTS (if you want your car to match your sofa). Porsche should use this terminology as well. a) Out of Range b) PTS

Confidential PTS list? Never before in my life heard of a for profit company intentionally concealing a revenue stream from their customer base.
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Originally Posted by lessthan3mph
This should be easy. Are you in favour of de-classifying the official PTS lists? (Currently they are all being kept "Confidential" and not for distribution to us customers.)
We really need a poll for this? Could anything be more self-evident?

But I get the motivation...


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Confidential PTS list? Never before in my life heard of a for profit company intentionally concealing a revenue stream from their customer base.
Try getting CXX options. One senses that the diesel fiasco is having seismic repercussions.
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Many times their internal documents are marked "confidential". I wouldn't get too excited about that. Whatever the motivation, I'm sure it's from a "because we can" attitude.

Easy to be arrogant when sales are flying high.
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Nizer, the motivation was to document the well-known (on RL) and overwhelming desire to have this information in the hands of those customers who want it. Eduardo has been trying to convince Porsche to make this more public, and if it is now documented in an actual poll result (even if the question doesn't pass the duh test), then hopefully it will be of some use to bolster his argument.

STG, actually it seems like it's more than just being labelled "Confidential" and instead Porsche really is treating this information like it's not to be disseminated publicly.

I'm curious if anyone who voted NO, and is willing to comment, would share their reasons for voting the way they did.


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