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Old 03-10-2016, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bronson7
Where will it end, 700 hp, come on. Some guys are saying they can't enjoy a 1.1 gt3 on the street with 475 hp then they say, can't wait for the 2RS. Why bother with this much unusable power, I really don't get it. Hang on, okay, flame suit just put on.
It's almost usable if you like rocket like acceleration from any speed. For changing direction and such - probably could get by with a little less power.

Then again, if I were looking for a car that pulls like a train I would consider the new DB11 and tune the ECU. I'm sure the turbo 12 can easily pump out 700+ hp and gobs of torque. Might be "slightly" more comfortable, too.
Old 03-10-2016, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bronson7
Where will it end, 700 hp, come on. Some guys are saying they can't enjoy a 1.1 gt3 on the street with 475 hp then they say, can't wait for the 2RS. Why bother with this much unusable power, I really don't get it. Hang on, okay, flame suit just put on.
I enjoy my 475HP, my 415HP, my 320HP, etc etc! Hell, I do donuts in my golf cart.....and no worries I will use all 700HP and enjoy it too!
Old 03-10-2016, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bronson7
Where will it end, 700 hp, come on. Some guys are saying they can't enjoy a 1.1 gt3 on the street with 475 hp then they say, can't wait for the 2RS. Why bother with this much unusable power, I really don't get it. Hang on, okay, flame suit just put on.
It ends when people stop paying, and not a second before. I have a close friend with a number of such cars. I had two such friends, but the second one passed away terribly young. Anyway, they shared precisely three things in common: a general love of supercars, the wherewithal to own many of them, and an absolute conviction that they were most happy always to have something like a Miata around at their disposal. The mega-torque experience can grow tiresome on the street. I have experienced it in microcosm. It can grow old surprisingly quickly, even for someone like me who benefits from the novelty of not owning a large stable. The trick is knowing one's own limits and capabilities, and what one enjoys, and catering to all. For some that is many cars, each with some specific niche. For others it is a few cars with many strings to their bow. I have never driven a GT2. I'd love to despite needing someone very competent in the seat beside me telling me how to begin to exploit it. Everything I have read about them suggests I would like to have a friend that owned one, but on me it would be a waste.
Old 03-11-2016, 12:05 AM
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I owned a Supra Tubro and a 996TT both with over 500hp to the wheel. You could never use all of that power on the street and the desire for more HP never goes away. I got it out of my system and will never own a turbo car again.
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
I owned a Supra Tubro and a 996TT both with over 500hp to the wheel. You could never use all of that power on the street and the desire for more HP never goes away. I got it out of my system and will never own a turbo car again.
Hater. lol
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Some day the headline for a new performance car will be "Less than 3000 lb curb weight" and not "More than 700 hp".

Some day.
Old 03-11-2016, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Some day the headline for a new performance car will be "Less than 3000 lb curb weight" and not "More than 700 hp".

Some day.
+1
Old 03-11-2016, 01:38 AM
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I used to race a 996 GT2 with 600+ HP. No problems using the power in 2nd gear with 335" Kumo Ecsta V700s back in 2005. It was controllable enough to win an SCCA National championship in Solo2 and Pro Solo (with a few suspension tweaks).

I put my name down 2 years ago for the next GT2RS and/or GT2. They are not for everyone, but if you can stay ahead of the car it is pretty amazing. If you can't, just put it in your museum collection.
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
Hater. lol
I'll get into way too much trouble with a big HP turbo car.
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
This is an Aerokit for 991 Turbo, so if it really is GT2RS it has to be very early prototype...
Old 03-11-2016, 06:48 AM
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i said the same Martin.

but i bought just some time ago (last 7 years i had only N/A cars) a Turbo car again: a HKT Seven RS Clubsport.
400hp, 1,5bar boost, 660kg curbweight, RWD, no ABS, no TC/ESP/DCS, no Servo, etc. = fun!


with all the helpers ON - the hp figure doesn´t really matter (except going against physics at the entries like trying 250kph into a 180degree turn ) - the GT2 will be driveable. as also the LaF, etc are.
Old 03-11-2016, 07:40 AM
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Let's not forget these are track focused cars meant to be used on circuits at least occasionally. On track 700 hp is not only usable but very handy specially when combined with all the other good stuff this car will have like brakes, mechanical grip and steering abilities.
Old 03-11-2016, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by aamersa
Let's not forget these are track focused cars meant to be used on circuits at least occasionally. On track 700 hp is not only usable but very handy specially when combined with all the other good stuff this car will have like brakes, mechanical grip and steering abilities.
Agree^ never been interested in a gt2 before. For some reason I think the 991 will be a great platform for turbocharged RS. With today's electronics and grip, 700hp track car sounds like fun. For a spirited weekend drive there are better cars.
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Originally Posted by 997rs4.0
Agree^ never been interested in a gt2 before. For some reason I think the 991 will be a great platform for turbocharged RS. With today's electronics and grip, 700hp track car sounds like fun. For a spirited weekend drive there are better cars.
Exactly what I'm saying. There are much better cars for the weekend. As far as the track goes, guys are saying the 3RS is too costly to put on the track and the RS will cost more, so I don't get it. If you wont track the 3RS, you certainly wont track the 2RS.
Old 03-11-2016, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bronson7
Exactly what I'm saying. There are much better cars for the weekend. As far as the track goes, guys are saying the 3RS is too costly to put on the track and the RS will cost more, so I don't get it. If you wont track the 3RS, you certainly wont track the 2RS.
This is a problem for a lot of us. As much as I would like to track my 4.0. When they get to expensive it takes the enjoyment out of it.
For now it seems like that limit is in the $100-150k range for most of us. Once cars are worth double that money they become art and collectibles.


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