991 GT3 production ending
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no i didnt.
wasnt the previous generation 911 out for like 8-9 years? maybe im mistaken.
so i figured there would be 4-5 years between 991 and 991.2
... not 12-14 months (my '14 gt3 will arrive the end of october, which means ill be able to start driving it next may, which means ill have about 4-5 weeks to decide whether i like it, or sell it, as the new model will be out only a few months later. so anyone potentially in the market for a gt3 will naturally want to wait for the new model, thus driving the price of the current model DOWN)
awesome.
#18
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no i didnt.
wasnt the previous generation 911 out for like 8-9 years? maybe im mistaken.
so i figured there would be 4-5 years between 991 and 991.2
... not 12-14 months (my '14 gt3 will arrive the end of october, which means ill be able to start driving it next may, which means ill have about 4-5 weeks to decide whether i like it, or sell it, as the new model will be out only a few months later. so anyone potentially in the market for a gt3 will naturally want to wait for the new model, thus driving the price of the current model DOWN)
awesome.
wasnt the previous generation 911 out for like 8-9 years? maybe im mistaken.
so i figured there would be 4-5 years between 991 and 991.2
... not 12-14 months (my '14 gt3 will arrive the end of october, which means ill be able to start driving it next may, which means ill have about 4-5 weeks to decide whether i like it, or sell it, as the new model will be out only a few months later. so anyone potentially in the market for a gt3 will naturally want to wait for the new model, thus driving the price of the current model DOWN)
awesome.
997.1 GT3 had a 2007 and 2008 model
997.2 GT3 had a 2010 and 2011 model
Their prices have held just fine, and so have the 996 models.
Newer models aren't necessarily what everyone wants. Ask the 997 guys.
With each new model, there will be a new sect of ardent fans that 'poo-poo' the latest model. Happens every time as well.
That being said, I'm sure the 991.2 will be better than the 991.1. The 997.2 commands more money than a 997.1. That's the way the cookie crumbles.
#19
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Frankly, I don't see 991.2 GT3 production starting till end of 2016 with deliveries in 2017. That is if they decide to do a 991.2 GT3 at all!
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#21
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You are referring to regular, non GT3 911s.
997.1 GT3 had a 2007 and 2008 model
997.2 GT3 had a 2010 and 2011 model
Their prices have held just fine, and so have the 996 models.
Newer models aren't necessarily what everyone wants. Ask the 997 guys.
With each new model, there will be a new sect of ardent fans that 'poo-poo' the latest model. Happens every time as well.
That being said, I'm sure the 991.2 will be better than the 991.1. The 997.2 commands more money than a 997.1. That's the way the cookie crumbles.
997.1 GT3 had a 2007 and 2008 model
997.2 GT3 had a 2010 and 2011 model
Their prices have held just fine, and so have the 996 models.
Newer models aren't necessarily what everyone wants. Ask the 997 guys.
With each new model, there will be a new sect of ardent fans that 'poo-poo' the latest model. Happens every time as well.
That being said, I'm sure the 991.2 will be better than the 991.1. The 997.2 commands more money than a 997.1. That's the way the cookie crumbles.
#22
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Why wouldn't they continue making GT3's? Porsche loves variants.
Also, I'm a bit surprised at this rumor. Didn't all previous GT3 RS's get produced alongside their non-RS counterpart? As far as I know, one didn't have to end for the other to begin... Unless PAG no longer has confidence in the current 991.1 GT3 because of the stop sale incident and the PR surrounding it.
Also, I'm a bit surprised at this rumor. Didn't all previous GT3 RS's get produced alongside their non-RS counterpart? As far as I know, one didn't have to end for the other to begin... Unless PAG no longer has confidence in the current 991.1 GT3 because of the stop sale incident and the PR surrounding it.
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Agreed. The current gen is absolutely on track with prior gens. The engine issue just threw everything a bit. Is there a chance that a 991.2 GT3 could be a turbo? This would put an interesting wrinkle in the equation and would make the .1 a very unique beast. Just a thought.
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Why wouldn't they continue making GT3's? Porsche loves variants.
Also, I'm a bit surprised at this rumor. Didn't all previous GT3 RS's get produced alongside their non-RS counterpart? As far as I know, one didn't have to end for the other to begin... Unless PAG no longer has confidence in the current 991.1 GT3 because of the stop sale incident and the PR surrounding it.
Also, I'm a bit surprised at this rumor. Didn't all previous GT3 RS's get produced alongside their non-RS counterpart? As far as I know, one didn't have to end for the other to begin... Unless PAG no longer has confidence in the current 991.1 GT3 because of the stop sale incident and the PR surrounding it.
Somewhere around the 997 GT3 Forum someone a few years ago posted the numbers of sales of all cars Porsche produced when the .2 RS came out. Now from a business point of view it does not make sense to even make non RS models if past figures have any insight into how the 991 series might sell!
Beyond not having a manual option, the regular GT3 is light years ahead of the 997.2 in performance and power. And in comparison too how much the cost went up on all the other 911s they kept the GT3 at just around the same price of the last model. All of this extra stuff and they didn't totally gouge the price right off the bat, are you serious? From strictly an MSRP view point the GT3 is a steal for a new car in the United States. I feel sorry for other countries and how much the price ends up being at the bottom line!
#26
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Well, I do not think the news will be good either on the GT3RS. This will be even more difficult to get because all the 918 guys get first dibs at this, as well, and any future models. My dealer who got like 9 GT3s thinks they will only get 2 RSs. You will see a lot of these cars going over MSRP because if some of the 918 guys flip them back then some dealers will certainly will mark them up.
As for the 991 GT3 depreciating. Sure , most cars do but they will hold up quite well like the 997 did. That I would put money on and I did not buy this with that thought in mind. I am so glad I hung in there with the 991 GT3. My dealer told my repeatedly do not cancel and have faith in Porsche you will not regret it. Those that cancelled hoping to get a new allocation on a 2015 might no be too lucky.
I will also say now you will start seeing these cars that are marked up $10,000-$20,000 starting to sell just like before the "stop sale"
As for the 991 GT3 depreciating. Sure , most cars do but they will hold up quite well like the 997 did. That I would put money on and I did not buy this with that thought in mind. I am so glad I hung in there with the 991 GT3. My dealer told my repeatedly do not cancel and have faith in Porsche you will not regret it. Those that cancelled hoping to get a new allocation on a 2015 might no be too lucky.
I will also say now you will start seeing these cars that are marked up $10,000-$20,000 starting to sell just like before the "stop sale"
#27
I just talked to two of the bigger dealers in the SF Bay Area. So far neither one has heard anything about a stop to production in 2015. Not that it isn't the case, but it would seem strange to me that Porsche would only tell some dealers and not all of them in some email.
#28
There was no way I was going to bail on the 14 GT3 w/o a 15 GT3 allocation locked up. Since that was not happening, I stuck it out. Glad I did and not let the emotion of rennlist sway my gut instincts.
I'm still on the RS list. If it is as hardcore as some have stated and consequently a poor sports car for the street, I'll pass since most of the miles I log will be on the street. I will have to find a way to get over the even gaudier boy-racer wing on the RS v. the regular GT3.
I'm still on the RS list. If it is as hardcore as some have stated and consequently a poor sports car for the street, I'll pass since most of the miles I log will be on the street. I will have to find a way to get over the even gaudier boy-racer wing on the RS v. the regular GT3.
#29
There was no way I was going to bail on the 14 GT3 w/o a 15 GT3 allocation locked up. Since that was not happening, I stuck it out. Glad I did and not let the emotion of rennlist sway my gut instincts.
I'm still on the RS list. If it is as hardcore as some have stated and consequently a poor sports car for the street, I'll pass since most of the miles I log will be on the street. I will have to find a way to get over the even gaudier boy-racer wing on the RS v. the regular GT3.
I'm still on the RS list. If it is as hardcore as some have stated and consequently a poor sports car for the street, I'll pass since most of the miles I log will be on the street. I will have to find a way to get over the even gaudier boy-racer wing on the RS v. the regular GT3.
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