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Old 06-04-2014, 10:07 AM
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Here's MT about the LaFerrari :

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ive/index.html
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nice lil cruiser. could be an alternative to the 991 Turbo S.
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A Turbo s, will eat the California and even a 458, Not really a competitor.
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I cant help myself but I gotta defend the California............sure it no 430,458 or GT3..................but if you ever got a chance to drive one a California for a while..............it is wonderful and fast and sounds great.

Its an great alternative for a Jaguar convertible, 991 cabriolet, 991 Targa, Mercedes E class cabriolet, Audi cabs, M6 cabriolet and Bentley GTC...............its fast fun and the interior is world class. Not much trunk space.

Now the Ferrari FF...........that's fugly..............

These cars were all $225K and up..............in 5 years these will be $100 to $125 and for a very fast soft-top hardtop cruiser.................some Ferrari guys like the daily driveability.

But the real nature of this post is that all major manufacturers are going to Turbocharging as you get reliability, massive power, better gas mileage .

There is a horsepower war going on between Mercedes, BMW, Porsche, Corvette, McLaren and Ferrari and its seem apparent that they feel Twin Turbos are the way to go to make big power efficiently. As gung-ho enthusiasts we are all along for the ride.
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Old 06-04-2014, 12:14 PM
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Joe,I always appreciate your informative posts. You obviously know what you're talking about having driven so many Ferraris. I've never driven one so I can't comment about how it feels. I'll be in Vegas this weekend and hoping to experience the Scuderia on the track.
Regarding Turbos in a Ferrari,I can only say it doesn't sound great according to this video. I'm sure that can be improved once you start tinkering with the exhaust.
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Originally Posted by ARSGT3
A Turbo s, will eat the California and even a 458, Not really a competitor.
i won't 'eat' them but possibly suck them up like a dyson vacuum cleaner does. and make the same noise as a dyson.
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I mean in straight line acceleration and usability. The Turbo S is an amazing machine for the price, The numbers are nuts on the car. Didn't mean to offend any Ferrari Fan boys
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Originally Posted by ARSGT3
A Turbo s, will eat the California and even a 458, Not really a competitor.
You've obviously never driven all of them. If you race from stop light to stop light, you may be right.
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Originally Posted by ARSGT3
I mean in straight line acceleration and usability. The Turbo S is an amazing machine for the price, The numbers are nuts on the car. Didn't mean to offend any Ferrari Fan boys
BTW, I'm a car guy, not a Ferrari Fan boy.
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I've said it before. I would pick the California over the 911 turbo S Cab.

Neither are the car for me, as I would prefer a GT3 or a 458, as I want a proper sports car.

But for that kind of car, a top-down, daily driver, GT sports car, with a turbo engine, the California wins out. It looks better and sounds better than the 911 turbo Cab, and only costs $8,000 more than the 911 turbo S cab.
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A car that you would more likely see in front of a nail salon on a Saturday afternoon than in a track or nice road (at least here in SoCal). That's OK, but for $250K....
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I'm a totally Porsche guy. Totally...no question. But, I would take a new CaliforniaT over a TurboS cab in a heartbeat. Just for the hardtop alone because I think a soft top 911 is fugly. However, I wouldn't buy either... I'd get a TTS coupe.
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It's a matter of taste. Although not my cup of tea the California T is not a bad car. But it's the low end Ferrari. It's like when you buy a boxter or cayman base. You always wish it was an S. If you had an S you wish it was a Carrera....and so on. A California shouldn't be even a discussion on GT3 forum. Totally different bread.
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http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/n...08t-2014-06-04

Carrying on with the naturally aspirated engine wasn't an option. Ferrari's powertrain director Vittorio Dini told me recently that that heavenly, crazy and wild V8 in the 458 Speciale - with its 9000rpm, 14-to-one CR, and 605bhp from just 4.5 litres - is the final epic goodbye howl of the firm's naturally aspirated V8 line.

Why? Because Ferrari must steadily reduce its CO2 average.
Turbo or death of the GT3 line is imminent. Might as well accept it now because VAG and thus PAG, need to follow this same path.


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