TIRED OF WAITING FOR RS, SHOULD I BUY A RADICAL?
01-20-2016, 03:35 PM
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[QUOTE=BK77;12942656]That thing in beautiful!! I talked with Chis Hall from Radical yesterday and he told me that the RXC should be a lot more reliable than the earlier models with a lot more performance. (that's why I put this thread up) They just started bringing them into the US very recently. They're at Sebring this weekend so I'm planning on flying down to meet with them this Sunday to do a few laps in the new car.(as a copilot
You will love it ....you have to try to get a drive of it ...
when driven by a pro you will be thrown around in it like a rag doll ..the g forces are off the scale ..after 3 laps you can feel your neck muscles and chest pleading you to get out !!!
The new models will have options abs and traction control I have been told, so a little more useable on road ...not that you would ever want to go for a lazy Sunday cruise in it !!
They have also just got GT3 homologation for the track Rxc to compete on track
You will love it ....you have to try to get a drive of it ...
when driven by a pro you will be thrown around in it like a rag doll ..the g forces are off the scale ..after 3 laps you can feel your neck muscles and chest pleading you to get out !!!
The new models will have options abs and traction control I have been told, so a little more useable on road ...not that you would ever want to go for a lazy Sunday cruise in it !!
They have also just got GT3 homologation for the track Rxc to compete on track
01-20-2016, 05:30 PM
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Indeed if no budget issues and you want to slap anyone on track Radical RXC
half the price but more easy on street
the KTM (840Kg!) i drove a friend on track and
was very fun
it is not on Radical super performance oriented (never drove) but emotionally involving more usable
even BC manual trasmission mech diff
a good car to keep it as toy
If you need more comfort Radio A/C etc. same budget Alfa 4C
on comfort way why not Lambo 580 or Mc570
but in compare i guess these are Sofas at least like GT3/RS
half the price but more easy on street
the KTM (840Kg!) i drove a friend on track and
was very fun
it is not on Radical super performance oriented (never drove) but emotionally involving more usable
even BC manual trasmission mech diff
a good car to keep it as toy
If you need more comfort Radio A/C etc. same budget Alfa 4C
on comfort way why not Lambo 580 or Mc570
but in compare i guess these are Sofas at least like GT3/RS
01-20-2016, 05:32 PM
#33
Burning Brakes
All the points above are totally valid. I raced in the SRA series for the past 2 years, have a 2016 Radical SR3 RSX that was just delivered to race in the Radical Series this year and a RS that hit the port in San Diego this week.
Just some random thoughts on pro's and con's
-Radical is stupid fast. Mike Skeen did a 1:51 at VIR a few months back in a new SR3 RSX with clapped out tires. It's expensive maintenance wise. Unless you are very mechanically inclined, figure about $500 a day for track support and about $1000-$1500 every 3rd track day for inspection, maintenance, etc...(not inclusive of gas and tires) Dunlops last for 8 race worth heat cycles and can be driven much longer but not competitively. Engines need a refresh every 40-45 hours, $12K round trip to UK for rebuild ($8K for rebuild, $1500 shipping, $2500 to de-install and re-install engine) Need 98 Octane Unleaded so figure around $10 a gallon for race fuel. Offs are very expensive, figure $5K-$15K depending on how bad you tear up the body work and suspension. If you get hit by a bigger car, it ends badly for the Radical....ask me how I know... Driving experience is like a video game, very little steering input, very taxing from the g-forces and addicting when you get it right. Honestly probably way too much car for a DE.
Spec Race Atom - Really cost effective and fun, can throw down good lap times. 2:03's from front runners at VIR and have gone as low as high 2:01's with perfect conditions (draft, new tires, and low temps) Running costs are absurdly low - brake pads last a whole season, gas is 93 pump octane, all the cars have their original engines and tranny's from 2012 and beyond unless there was a money shift. The power train is based on a Civic SI engine and tranny with stock tune so maintenance is very low and spare parts are plentiful and cheap. They are a real handful to drive fast, short wheel base, rear weight bias, they like to spin and they do it quickly. I think they are probably one of the best trainer cars out there since they communicate immediately when they are being driven well and bite when they are not. Seems like it could be a good choice for DE since they are relatively fast, low cost, and will help build your skills. Con's are they are depreciating like crazy and it's unknown what the future of the race series looks like based on some recent developments in the off season.
RS - If you don't beat it up too bad you have a good chance of getting most, if not all of your money back when you sell it and is there really anything better than driving a Porsche around a track and the sound a GT3 makes at full tilt?
Just some random thoughts on pro's and con's
-Radical is stupid fast. Mike Skeen did a 1:51 at VIR a few months back in a new SR3 RSX with clapped out tires. It's expensive maintenance wise. Unless you are very mechanically inclined, figure about $500 a day for track support and about $1000-$1500 every 3rd track day for inspection, maintenance, etc...(not inclusive of gas and tires) Dunlops last for 8 race worth heat cycles and can be driven much longer but not competitively. Engines need a refresh every 40-45 hours, $12K round trip to UK for rebuild ($8K for rebuild, $1500 shipping, $2500 to de-install and re-install engine) Need 98 Octane Unleaded so figure around $10 a gallon for race fuel. Offs are very expensive, figure $5K-$15K depending on how bad you tear up the body work and suspension. If you get hit by a bigger car, it ends badly for the Radical....ask me how I know... Driving experience is like a video game, very little steering input, very taxing from the g-forces and addicting when you get it right. Honestly probably way too much car for a DE.
Spec Race Atom - Really cost effective and fun, can throw down good lap times. 2:03's from front runners at VIR and have gone as low as high 2:01's with perfect conditions (draft, new tires, and low temps) Running costs are absurdly low - brake pads last a whole season, gas is 93 pump octane, all the cars have their original engines and tranny's from 2012 and beyond unless there was a money shift. The power train is based on a Civic SI engine and tranny with stock tune so maintenance is very low and spare parts are plentiful and cheap. They are a real handful to drive fast, short wheel base, rear weight bias, they like to spin and they do it quickly. I think they are probably one of the best trainer cars out there since they communicate immediately when they are being driven well and bite when they are not. Seems like it could be a good choice for DE since they are relatively fast, low cost, and will help build your skills. Con's are they are depreciating like crazy and it's unknown what the future of the race series looks like based on some recent developments in the off season.
RS - If you don't beat it up too bad you have a good chance of getting most, if not all of your money back when you sell it and is there really anything better than driving a Porsche around a track and the sound a GT3 makes at full tilt?
01-20-2016, 06:51 PM
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Both Scrappy1972 and I have Spec Race Atoms but I sold mine last month to make room for the Radical. The overall ownership and racing experience was fantastic, would do it all over again if given the choice.
AMP is a great track layout for the Atom's. Lots of corners and relatively technical.
Can't even imagine a Turbo Atom. I think it would be more than a handful on the track but a lot of fun!
AMP is a great track layout for the Atom's. Lots of corners and relatively technical.
Can't even imagine a Turbo Atom. I think it would be more than a handful on the track but a lot of fun!
01-20-2016, 07:06 PM
#35
Burning Brakes
Both Scrappy1972 and I have Spec Race Atoms but I sold mine last month to make room for the Radical. The overall ownership and racing experience was fantastic, would do it all over again if given the choice.
AMP is a great track layout for the Atom's. Lots of corners and relatively technical.
Can't even imagine a Turbo Atom. I think it would be more than a handful on the track but a lot of fun!
AMP is a great track layout for the Atom's. Lots of corners and relatively technical.
Can't even imagine a Turbo Atom. I think it would be more than a handful on the track but a lot of fun!
01-21-2016, 11:36 AM
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[QUOTE=YellowPMan;12943596]
If all goes well hopeful I'll get a proper ride this weekend, Ill post my thoughts and hopefully some video footage Monday.
Several people have pointed out the KTM, I really need to take a serious look at it. I'll troll around the pits this weekend and try to find one and have a chat with the owner.
I have never been a big fan of Lambo's, I tracked a buddies but between the poor visibility low head room etc. ....I don't know, it just didn't click with me. He loves it and thinks its the best thing since sliced bread.
Never looked at the Mc
[QUOTE=Texas RS;12944292]Agreed. Look at CJ's write-up on the Viper ACR Extreme Aero. He was at Chuckwalla in Dec and he and that car flat chewed up the track.[/QUOTE
The Viper ACR is a beast, I would love to drive one. Ill do a little more research...thanks!
That thing in beautiful!! I talked with Chis Hall from Radical yesterday and he told me that the RXC should be a lot more reliable than the earlier models with a lot more performance. (that's why I put this thread up) They just started bringing them into the US very recently. They're at Sebring this weekend so I'm planning on flying down to meet with them this Sunday to do a few laps in the new car.(as a copilot
You will love it ....you have to try to get a drive of it ...
when driven by a pro you will be thrown around in it like a rag doll ..the g forces are off the scale ..after 3 laps you can feel your neck muscles and chest pleading you to get out !!!
The new models will have options abs and traction control I have been told, so a little more useable on road ...not that you would ever want to go for a lazy Sunday cruise in it !!
They have also just got GT3 homologation for the track Rxc to compete on track
You will love it ....you have to try to get a drive of it ...
when driven by a pro you will be thrown around in it like a rag doll ..the g forces are off the scale ..after 3 laps you can feel your neck muscles and chest pleading you to get out !!!
The new models will have options abs and traction control I have been told, so a little more useable on road ...not that you would ever want to go for a lazy Sunday cruise in it !!
They have also just got GT3 homologation for the track Rxc to compete on track
If all goes well hopeful I'll get a proper ride this weekend, Ill post my thoughts and hopefully some video footage Monday.
Indeed if no budget issues and you want to slap anyone on track Radical RXC
half the price but more easy on street
the KTM (840Kg!) i drove a friend on track and
was very fun
it is not on Radical super performance oriented (never drove) but emotionally involving more usable
even BC manual trasmission mech diff
a good car to keep it as toy
If you need more comfort Radio A/C etc. same budget Alfa 4C
on comfort way why not Lambo 580 or Mc570
but in compare i guess these are Sofas at least like GT3/RS
half the price but more easy on street
the KTM (840Kg!) i drove a friend on track and
was very fun
it is not on Radical super performance oriented (never drove) but emotionally involving more usable
even BC manual trasmission mech diff
a good car to keep it as toy
If you need more comfort Radio A/C etc. same budget Alfa 4C
on comfort way why not Lambo 580 or Mc570
but in compare i guess these are Sofas at least like GT3/RS
Several people have pointed out the KTM, I really need to take a serious look at it. I'll troll around the pits this weekend and try to find one and have a chat with the owner.
I have never been a big fan of Lambo's, I tracked a buddies but between the poor visibility low head room etc. ....I don't know, it just didn't click with me. He loves it and thinks its the best thing since sliced bread.
Never looked at the Mc[QUOTE=Texas RS;12944292]Agreed. Look at CJ's write-up on the Viper ACR Extreme Aero. He was at Chuckwalla in Dec and he and that car flat chewed up the track.[/QUOTE
The Viper ACR is a beast, I would love to drive one. Ill do a little more research...thanks!
02-10-2016, 10:41 AM
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UPDATE!
Long story short, I went to Sebring a few weeks ago and met with the guys from Radical. I spent most the day talking about the cars, did a few laps in a RXC V8 (co pilot) and fell in love!!! Last week I ordered a brand new Radical RXC V6 
I chose the NA for the reliability and relative cheap running cost etc..
I've been a waiting list for a RS for 2 1/2 years and did not get a car, not sure if its the politics, hype or limited production ...or all 3. I love P cars just as much as the next guy but this "super exclusive"...."VIP" BS has gotten way out of hand and I'm not playing that game!!
Life is too short to follow the crowd, that's why I buy when everyone else is selling and I sell when everyone else is buying
Thanks again for all your feedback, I hope to have her at Sebring the first week in April (Chin). It's Blue RXC, stop by and say hi if your around.
Bryan
I chose the NA for the reliability and relative cheap running cost etc..I've been a waiting list for a RS for 2 1/2 years and did not get a car, not sure if its the politics, hype or limited production ...or all 3. I love P cars just as much as the next guy but this "super exclusive"...."VIP" BS has gotten way out of hand and I'm not playing that game!!
Life is too short to follow the crowd, that's why I buy when everyone else is selling and I sell when everyone else is buying
Thanks again for all your feedback, I hope to have her at Sebring the first week in April (Chin). It's Blue RXC, stop by and say hi if your around.
Bryan
02-10-2016, 11:00 AM
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02-10-2016, 11:04 AM
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Long story short, I went to Sebring a few weeks ago and met with the guys from Radical. I spent most the day talking about the cars, did a few laps in a RXC V8 (co pilot) and fell in love!!! Last week I ordered a brand new Radical RXC V6 I chose the NA for the reliability and relative cheap running cost etc..
I've been a waiting list for a RS for 2 1/2 years and did not get a car, not sure if its the politics, hype or limited production ...or all 3. I love P cars just as much as the next guy but this "super exclusive"...."VIP" BS has gotten way out of hand and I'm not playing that game!!
Life is too short to follow the crowd, that's why I buy when everyone else is selling and I sell when everyone else is buying
Thanks again for all your feedback, I hope to have her at Sebring the first week in April (Chin). It's Blue RXC, stop by and say hi if your around.
Bryan
I chose the NA for the reliability and relative cheap running cost etc..I've been a waiting list for a RS for 2 1/2 years and did not get a car, not sure if its the politics, hype or limited production ...or all 3. I love P cars just as much as the next guy but this "super exclusive"...."VIP" BS has gotten way out of hand and I'm not playing that game!!
Life is too short to follow the crowd, that's why I buy when everyone else is selling and I sell when everyone else is buying
Thanks again for all your feedback, I hope to have her at Sebring the first week in April (Chin). It's Blue RXC, stop by and say hi if your around.
Bryan
Chum of mine was also competing at Sebring (with Radical Canada group) and was given the opportunity by Chris and Harry to drive the newest RXC Spyder Turbo for a session.
He was blown away... I'm sure that you will be as well!
02-10-2016, 11:54 AM
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first of all: Bryan! You Sir have *****! 
congrats!
the KTM makes fun with an upgraded Turbo, as the later sharper versions - but in Std. a bit too lame... (was working two years in Mattighofen at KTM in the R&D - and do have several XBox experience. If somebody needs infos, help etc. don´t hesitate to PN me)
I (as my signature tells) would go for a Caterham but only because it can be modified somehow to a greyzone legal vehicle in GER/AUT....
But the Radical - superb! And i guess you can go with it on the streets in US? Quaife sequential gearbox fun each day to the office!
please share with us pics and experiences!
congrats!
the KTM makes fun with an upgraded Turbo, as the later sharper versions - but in Std. a bit too lame... (was working two years in Mattighofen at KTM in the R&D - and do have several XBox experience. If somebody needs infos, help etc. don´t hesitate to PN me)
I (as my signature tells) would go for a Caterham but only because it can be modified somehow to a greyzone legal vehicle in GER/AUT....
But the Radical - superb! And i guess you can go with it on the streets in US? Quaife sequential gearbox fun each day to the office!
please share with us pics and experiences!
02-10-2016, 12:20 PM
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It can be registered and made street legal, not sure if I'm going down that road yet. I live in Tampa FL where all the roads are flat, straight and not very rewarding to drive on.
Thank you sir
I actually ordered my car from Chris and Harry, great guys!!! The new Spyder Turbo is a monster, I think they said it's rated at 670Hp. I believe they sold the car to a gentleman in S Florida that weekend.
first of all: Bryan! You Sir have *****!
congrats!
the KTM makes fun with an upgraded Turbo, as the later sharper versions - but in Std. a bit too lame... (was working two years in Mattighofen at KTM in the R&D - and do have several XBox experience. If somebody needs infos, help etc. don´t hesitate to PN me)
I (as my signature tells) would go for a Caterham but only because it can be modified somehow to a greyzone legal vehicle in GER/AUT....
But the Radical - superb! And i guess you can go with it on the streets in US? Quaife sequential gearbox fun each day to the office!
please share with us pics and experiences!
congrats!
the KTM makes fun with an upgraded Turbo, as the later sharper versions - but in Std. a bit too lame... (was working two years in Mattighofen at KTM in the R&D - and do have several XBox experience. If somebody needs infos, help etc. don´t hesitate to PN me)
I (as my signature tells) would go for a Caterham but only because it can be modified somehow to a greyzone legal vehicle in GER/AUT....
But the Radical - superb! And i guess you can go with it on the streets in US? Quaife sequential gearbox fun each day to the office!
please share with us pics and experiences!
LOL, thanks
I looked at the Caterham, KTM, Radical and Atom, but decided to go Radical bc of the performance, closed cockpit with AC,running cost and yes the looks! It has such a bold presence to it, I just love it!
Not sure if ill register it for street use yet, might just keep it as track weapon.
I don't have too many pics, what I do have ill try to get up.