bronson7

"If" the 991RS is the last of the NA, would it be worth more down the road vs the 997RS "if" it's the last of the MT?

TRAKCAR

If it turns out to be dependable when beaten to death on track, I think so.

silverrules

I thought AP said NA will be here for GT cars for a while. no?

Ronan

He did, but the VAG meltdown plus the tightening of emissions regs is going to make it tough......

oc997

I don't think the 991.1 RS will be last NA unfortunately as stated by AP earlier but NA motors will not be around much longer as VW will put pressure on Porsche to economize on turbo engines

Jimmy-D

I spoke with the cleaning lady the other day and there is nothing definitive the next GT3 will remain NA. Some are now thinking that it may not because the rest of the models have gone Turbo charged and it would be way too expensive to keep 6000-8000 cars NA.

Tre

I'll first admit that I haven't read deeply into the various future rules and regulations, but I honestly can't see why every model across the performance board (all manufacturers included) would NEED to go F/I. Perhaps for manufacturers that don't produce large numbers across their vehicle lineup, but others like Porsche that have mass produced models couldn't keep N/A cars in low production numbers. Wouldn't the small fraction of a lineup not affect the overall averages in such a manner that would penalize a manufacturer? Perhaps that's why MY numbers are getting smaller(?)...just an initial hypothesis without a lot of amplifying evidence yet.

Now assuming the above is a rational train of thought, I'd think popular opinion would likely drive out N/A cars for the most part. Technological advances with turbo engines and exhaust tuning have clearly narrowed the gap in feel and sound. The N/A purists aside, how long could Porsche keep its 911 GT cars on the same performance playing field when its competitors are beginning to gap them on track. The 570 is SUPPOSED to be the entry McLaren that's not track focused yet we all know that it's virtually in the GT cars league without proper tires and perhaps even quicker with the real tires. And the 488...not even in Speciale form is an absolute beast, once again without proper tires. These are just a couple examples of turbo cars designed with street in mind but can definitely hang with, and at times beat 911 GT cars on track (endurance capabilities being the exception of course).

So, with the flat six being at its very near limits design wise, people talk of dropping an 8 back there. Would a 911 still be a 911 with an 8 cylinder? Loyalists to other historic models would protest if the heart of their passions was transplanted with something foreign. Could you imagine what Vette lovers would do if the C8 model followed the next Ford GT's path!

I'm just rambling, but to go back with what I first stated, I honestly don't think Porsche NEEDS to get rid of its N/A GT cars due to emissions/MPG rules as long as the pressure to keep up with the Jones' in the specs department doesn't make them do it first.

fxz

997 won t be last manual NA
991R ?
991 S MT ?
991 GTS MT?

huge amount of NA MT
some faster than 997 RS
All better as engineering and style

then 997 what? I can t see the time when 997 bubble will burst

usctrojanGT3

997RS = last MT NA RS
991.1RS = second to last NA RS
991.2RS = last NA RS

/END THREAD

sparkyglenn

IMOP

991R sells out to huge demand and limited qty

991.2 GT3 comes NA and both PDK and MT.

Next gen of GT cars though, all bets are off.

bronson7

So, as I was asking, which one would be worth more....."IF" Come on guys, get with the question.

sparkyglenn

I'd say no. Mezger engine is special and with MT and the 997 chassis which is less complicated, lighter and smaller, no.

The current 991 RS on market are just grossly overpriced.

The 997 chassis continues to hold excellent value and its 5 or more years old.

silverrules

That cleaning lady again. Same happend to Mr. Mezger. Too expensive to build. Sounds familiar.

fxz

Mezger GT1?

Nizer

Too early to tell. Don't know final production numbers and variants of new RS platform. The only thing that can be said with some degree of certainty is that 997 RS 4.0 is worth more than any new 991 platform to date.