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Old 11-11-2015, 11:56 PM
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I guess. 500 more GT cars at an average of $20k more MSRP would bump the net profit by say $10 million on the old income statement, but hey, maybe that's chump change
Old 11-12-2015, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Keith Verges - Dallas
I guess. 500 more GT cars at an average of $20k more MSRP would bump the net profit by say $10 million on the old income statement, but hey, maybe that's chump change
Answered your own question... 10 mm immaterial to vag
Old 11-12-2015, 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by mrsullivan
Answered your own question... 10 mm immaterial to vag
If I was a shareholder/stakeholder and heard that from senior management, I would boot them out of the company. Profit is profit and leaving it on the table is unacceptable in my eyes. A corporations number one goal should be to maximize profits not to stroke their dealers.
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
If I was a shareholder/stakeholder and heard that from senior management, I would boot them out of the company. Profit is profit and leaving it on the table is unacceptable in my eyes. A corporations number one goal should be to maximize profits not to stroke their dealers.
don't disagree....but from an accounting /finance standpoint, isn't 10mm immaterial on their financials
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Originally Posted by silverrules
Can anyone confirm they have ordered an RS using this new round of allocation's?
I scored one!
Old 11-12-2015, 08:31 AM
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congrats!
Old 11-12-2015, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mrsullivan
don't disagree....but from an accounting /finance standpoint, isn't 10mm immaterial on their financials
I think the 10mm is material to the GT/motorsportso program - especially given the current problems. I think we all win if they price them more appropriately.
Old 11-12-2015, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by FLGT
I scored one!
Awesome and congrats. Looks like slowly we are seeing these rare allocations take place.
Old 11-12-2015, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by NateOZ
I think the 10mm is material to the GT/motorsportso program - especially given the current problems. I think we all win if they price them more appropriately.
im not using the term in a subjective way, i am saying that i think the number is immaterial from an accounting standard to total revenue/financials at VAG. but i am not an accountant, maybe someone else can comment.
if you applied the same standard to Porsche motorsports only, i am sure that it is material
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Originally Posted by mrsullivan
im not using the term in a subjective way, i am saying that i think the number is immaterial from an accounting standard to total revenue/financials at VAG. but i am not an accountant, maybe someone else can comment.
if you applied the same standard to Porsche motorsports only, i am sure that it is material
I am not sure about this.

I have no idea what the Porsche Motorsports division's budget is (as the publicly available financial statements for Porsche AG does not list it as a separate line-item), but from what I understand Porsche invested something upwards of about $150M USD just on the 919 LMP1 program alone.
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Originally Posted by silverrules
The "carrot and stick" approach for dealers
If PAG/VW want to reward some of their best dealers, they should make 30-50 unexpected PTS RSs and dump them in their laps and let them sell to the highest bidders. Let that be the "trunk" money.
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Sadly, their "best" dealers by volume are also the most unscrupulous ones.
Old 11-12-2015, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern
Sadly, their "best" dealers by volume are also the most unscrupulous ones.
Oh I know for sure it'd be my top 3 US stealerships...Beverly Hills, Auto Gallery, and Champion.
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Oh I know for sure it'd be my top 3 US stealerships...Beverly Hills, Auto Gallery, and Champion.
Yup.
Old 11-13-2015, 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by FLGT
I scored one!
me toooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!


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