Need some help re: Headlights and delamination
#1
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Need some help re: Headlights and delamination
So it seems I've found myself in a bind. Took delivery of my GT3 and dropped it off at a well known local installer yesterday to have the front end covered in film. We decided to cover the lights but I was a bit hesitant on it.
Fast forward to this morning. I messaged the installer that if it was not too late I would pass on wrapping the lights as I found the threads on delamination and sent them his way.
I got a call tonight and it seems he had already covered the lights when we had our exchange earlier in the day. He never mentioned them already being wrapped in the exchange and instead tried to remove the film which resulted in delamination. So his solution was to take them to a body shop he trusts which sounds like they're going to do the equivalent of a headlight restore by removing the remaining UV coating, polish and apply a fresh clearcoat to the lens.
He genuinely sounded like he is trying to do the right thing but I'm pretty freaked out at this point. The installer believes it will look perfect when they're done.
How screwed am I and outside of the "OMG demand new headlights" reaction any technical things I should look for or major concerns that could result from polishing and applying a new clearcoat to the lights.
Any advice or info would really help a ton as 3 days into having the car this is not what I would have imagined worrying about.
Additionally they're LED headlights and am I correct on the roughly 4k cost to replace the set?
Fast forward to this morning. I messaged the installer that if it was not too late I would pass on wrapping the lights as I found the threads on delamination and sent them his way.
I got a call tonight and it seems he had already covered the lights when we had our exchange earlier in the day. He never mentioned them already being wrapped in the exchange and instead tried to remove the film which resulted in delamination. So his solution was to take them to a body shop he trusts which sounds like they're going to do the equivalent of a headlight restore by removing the remaining UV coating, polish and apply a fresh clearcoat to the lens.
He genuinely sounded like he is trying to do the right thing but I'm pretty freaked out at this point. The installer believes it will look perfect when they're done.
How screwed am I and outside of the "OMG demand new headlights" reaction any technical things I should look for or major concerns that could result from polishing and applying a new clearcoat to the lights.
Any advice or info would really help a ton as 3 days into having the car this is not what I would have imagined worrying about.
Additionally they're LED headlights and am I correct on the roughly 4k cost to replace the set?
Last edited by rage2122; 03-11-2015 at 12:24 AM. Reason: Update
#2
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I did not get my headlights covered because of this issue, but I discussed it with a couple of installers. I was told that they could be restored to like new condition by the process that you described if delamination occurred. I think you should be fine.
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Sorry for your trouble and thanks for sharing the story with us as it at least confirms that putting film on the headlights is not a good idea. Maybe it will save someone else the angst of discovering it's a no-no before it's too late.
I guess you could argue that the installer should have told you that he'd already covered the lights and that it should have been your choice as to what to do next. OTOH, you did give the ok for him to do it in the first place.
From your post it sounds as though the process being used to repair the finish is not the same as the coating the factory puts on, IOW a clear coat instead of a UV coating. If true, I have no idea if that will make any difference long term. Maybe you should wait and at least see how it looks before taking the next step. Good luck.
I guess you could argue that the installer should have told you that he'd already covered the lights and that it should have been your choice as to what to do next. OTOH, you did give the ok for him to do it in the first place.
From your post it sounds as though the process being used to repair the finish is not the same as the coating the factory puts on, IOW a clear coat instead of a UV coating. If true, I have no idea if that will make any difference long term. Maybe you should wait and at least see how it looks before taking the next step. Good luck.
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If you initially agreed on doing the lights, I don't think you can be real picky. I would accept the process he is undertaking and see how the lights turn out.
If you told him you were hesitant and undecided and he went ahead and did them, I would ask for replacement OEM headlights ($4K).
If you told him you were hesitant and undecided and he went ahead and did them, I would ask for replacement OEM headlights ($4K).
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Peter, the 991 headlights are different. Porsche uses a harder UV protective coating now. If you cover the lights with wrap, they are prone to peeling and the surface delaminates. Different than 997. Most expert installers will not put wrap on the 991 headlights.
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#8
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I had my lights covered but first I had to sign or be made aware of the potential delamination issue. They also said the headlights can be refinished/ recoated so it's not a big deal. But YMMV.
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If you put film on the headlights to protect them from pitting on track, and then ruin the finish on the headlight anyway when you eventually take off the track damaged film, what's the point of the exercise? Pitting or delamination; take your pick, I guess....
#11
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Thanks for the info and advice.
I'll report back how it turns out but hopefully it's just as simple as the refinishing and covering them with film to get back to clear w/ uv protection.
I'll report back how it turns out but hopefully it's just as simple as the refinishing and covering them with film to get back to clear w/ uv protection.
#14
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IIRC the owners manual indicates not to wrap the lights. I would let your guy try to work his magic. If he fails then I would request him to put on a new OEM set.
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