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Old 11-24-2013, 10:12 AM
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As my delivery date approaches, I am getting concerned that we may never see the 991 GT3 motor in a racecar. All along, I thought it was just a matter of timing, homologation, etc., but I have spoken to three sources closely connected to Porsche racing programs and all have had similar info. The new motorsports engine will be DFI, but probably not based on the 9a1. They have suggested that there is "something new" in development but nobody seems to know what it is. It is amazing how secretive Porsche can be. The NSA should take a lesson.

In any case, it appears that the 9a1 may be leapfrogged in the motorsports progression. I am not sure that this implies any particular deficiency with the engine as it seems to be performing quite well in the commercial iterations but, rather, that the next big thing (really big?) might be close enough that it is not worth investing in the development of the 9a1 for a short racing lifespan.

Those of us who will be early adopters of the new high tech may soon be one generation behind...
Old 11-24-2013, 03:55 PM
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well, now that teams have taken delivery of the new cars we should know for sure.
Old 11-24-2013, 04:37 PM
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It'll be interesting to see if the plan is to move the racing platform to the 960' if they use the Mezger for a couple of years until that happens.
Old 11-24-2013, 04:45 PM
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It would be a prety minor disappointment for me. More to the point, AFAIC, is whether the 991 GT3 will be an interesting and fun driving experience and will it provide exciting performance. The next "big thing" may very well be a 960 type chassis exercise with a flat 8 which would be very cool but also likely an order of magnitude more expensive than the GT3 and therefore out of my price category. I really don't need the latest thing, but the thing I get needs to satisfy my requirements.
Old 11-24-2013, 04:46 PM
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I look at cars like computers. As soon as you buy some sheet metal it is current for a snapshot in time. If your goal is to keep up with the current tech, you'll be going through cars like crazy. Nothing wrong with that if you have the disposable income. But if you don't, then you have to be happy with making a decision, jumping into the fray, and enjoy your new sled knowing that the auto industry will move on. It always does.

If you are saying that the new powerplant is somehow tainted if it never goes into the cup cars and RSRs, I suppose it will a little. But to me, as long as the GT3 delivers as promised, and based on all the reviews including the few from non-jounalists in particular, I think the GT3 will deliver. In spades.

And understand that when the 996 came out, the new wet sump motors, were deemed unworthy for the turbo and GT cars so they stuck with the dry sump metzger. However, this time around the 9a1 block was designed with the robustness to be used throughout the product range (though fully acknowledging there ain't a lot in common b/t the GT3 motor and the non GT cars).

I have no desire to go back to the 997 or 996 platforms to get the lauded Mezg motor.
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Originally Posted by frayed
I have no desire to go back to the 997 or 996 platforms to get the lauded Mezg motor.
Me either. How about an Offenhauser?
Old 11-24-2013, 07:59 PM
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...and it will take nothing away from the smile the 991 GT3 puts on your face as you're driving it.
Old 11-24-2013, 08:02 PM
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How about the Flying Lizard's not driving Porsche's.
Old 11-24-2013, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Serge944
...and it will take nothing away from the smile the 991 GT3 puts on your face as you're driving it.
Agree again. I car about how the car feels, performs, and sounds not all this stuff Porsche historians go off on.

Much like a woman, I don't judge her on her past, just who she is today

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Old 11-24-2013, 08:35 PM
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I agree with the fact that the car you buy new is being improved upon not only within the brand; but by competitors as well. Standing on the side is not for me as I want to jump and see what I can drive in the present moment. I just cannot afford to sit on the side to save $$.
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Originally Posted by jumper5836
How about the Flying Lizard's not driving Porsche's.

This means we will actually have CORE autosport field a team of two competitive RSR's vs Lizards always fielding only one car with Seth Neiman driving his slower than the Cup cars in GTC.


Sounds like the 991 GT3 could be a bastard child in regards to the engine and possibly the RWS. That could destroy the value if true.
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While I generally agree with the sentiments of the posters above, I would be very unhappy to see a 2015 GT3 RS roll out in a few months sporting a new motor and no RWS.
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Great!!! The one car I tell my wife won't lose like all the others.....will.
Old 11-25-2013, 12:24 AM
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Resale is absolutely the last thing I'm thinking about with this car. I plan to keep it a long time. That said, it may very well be the last GT3 with a NA non-hybrid engine, and if rumors are true will be a fairly limited model run that may not come close to meeting demand. Wishful thinking, maybe, but I'd bet on value retention not being a problem.
Old 11-25-2013, 02:05 AM
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TMG, please don't concern yourself with resale of the GT3. If it was a Turbo I would say be concerned. I lost $90K on a TT 2 years ago with only 12K miles and 2 yr's old. GT3 hold their value pretty darn good. If you are still concern then maybe its best to let it go. Im not even done making changes to my spec. I know one thing. I am holding on to my current .2 GT3 and the upcoming 991 that hasn't been born yet and any upcoming GT3 that I will purchase. These cars are absolutely addictive. why would you sell and What else would you buy that's more fun than this car.

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