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981 GTS vs S - what are the differences?

Old 10-13-2015, 05:35 PM
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Default 981 GTS vs S - what are the differences?

Hi All

Having recently taken delivery of a 981 GTS, I'm interested to know which mechanical components of the car, if any, are unique to the GTS.

I know the GTS is like a very well optioned S, with different front bumper and some black trim pieces (exhaust tips, etc), but is there anything mechanically unique to the GTS?

I guess the ECU has a different map, so that sort of counts. But in areas like the springs and dampers, are these just the same as those on an S with PASM?

Happy to be directed to an existing thread, btw!

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Old 10-13-2015, 07:50 PM
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front and back trim pieces, 3rd radiator in front, modified ECU for more power.
The rest is the same.

possibles: Brake air ducts maybe bigger. Sound piping to drivers compartment from engine?
Old 10-13-2015, 08:02 PM
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I think of it as more of a modified option package (except above), "giving" you options a little cheaper than ordered separately (assuming you wanted everything in the package).
I ordered a GTS because 1). I found a local dealer who still had an allocation that could be changed 2). the dealer I bought my TT from only had a confirmed "Black" allocation, couldn't get a GTS and "could" get an S allocation but didn't have one at the moment; I wanted a 3.4 before they go away and 3). There wasn't anything "thrown in" I didn't really want (and the extra 15 HP couldn't hurt, if not noticeable).
Congrats! I had a '13 BS and I really missed it after trading it for the TT. I'm really looking forward to another one.
Old 10-15-2015, 04:00 PM
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Thanks guys. i did not know they had an extra radiator.

Its a shame they did not fit grills, as i can see they are going to need constant effort to keep clear.

As to the brakes ducts / sound piping - how would one find out for sure?

Another question: are the standard 20" wheels shared with the 991? They are not particularly wide, so I'm guessing not.

thanks again :-)
Old 10-16-2015, 02:52 AM
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The sound symposer is new and I think unique to the GTS. PSE is different from prior S, but not sure if it's just modified for all new Caymans.
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Are the suspension pieces the same between the two vehicles? I understand that the GT4 has all unique suspension pieces so there's no easy way to swap in those parts. I plan on tracking a Cayman and have been trying to understand more about what it takes to achieve the necessary alignment and camber for track use. I am still struggling to understand if its better to purchase an S or a GTS for my intended use.
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Originally Posted by dakargelb
Another question: are the standard 20" wheels shared with the 991? They are not particularly wide, so I'm guessing not.

thanks again :-)
I think the wheels are wider on the 991, but the configurator will tell you for sure. I know the sport technos on the 991 are wider than those on the Caymans.
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Originally Posted by ML///
Are the suspension pieces the same between the two vehicles? I understand that the GT4 has all unique suspension pieces so there's no easy way to swap in those parts. I plan on tracking a Cayman and have been trying to understand more about what it takes to achieve the necessary alignment and camber for track use. I am still struggling to understand if its better to purchase an S or a GTS for my intended use.
Well the GTS has PASM standard, doesn't it? I thought it did, whereas with the Caymans S you can get the standard suspension, PASM, or the X73 sport suspension.
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
Well the GTS has PASM standard, doesn't it? I thought it did, whereas with the Caymans S you can get the standard suspension, PASM, or the X73 sport suspension.
PASM is standard. X73 is a "free" option (free in quotes as PASM costs more than X73 generally)
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I just put the X73 suspension on my Cayman S and I absolutely love it. And they had no trouble dialing in a lot of negative camber, so I'm guessing a track set up would be doable without any mods, but a quick call to the dealer would probably answer that question.
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
I just put the X73 suspension on my Cayman S and I absolutely love it. And they had no trouble dialing in a lot of negative camber, so I'm guessing a track set up would be doable without any mods, but a quick call to the dealer would probably answer that question.
How much negative camber did you get.

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I'm -1.8 in the back, -.8 up front, but I have a street set up. He could have dialed in more negative camber had I wanted to.
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Also how does the X73 ride/feel for you?
Old 10-22-2015, 10:51 PM
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Get the GTS if you can.

X73 is great and PTV probably doesn't hurt either.
I doubt there is bigger brake ducts on GTS, If there is I am still looking for bigger.
Sport technos and Turbo design wheels are .5 inches wider than other options. I don't think any widths/offsets are actually used with a 911 (I may be wrong). I would stick to the cheapest option you can get and buy some 19" to actually use.
Third radiator is there on PDK, not sure about manual cars…
I don't think my 15 has a sound pipe. The car sounds about 40000% better on the outside so I need to clean mine out if it is there!

For what it is worth I thrashed my stock tires (all stock car including alignment) in ten 20 minute track sessions. Brakes are also starting to change color. I am new to track stuff so I am pretty sure I wasn't setting any records out there. IMO Alignment definitely recommended for this purpose.
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Originally Posted by ML///
Also how does the X73 ride/feel for you?
I love the X73 suspension. Massive improvement over the stock suspension. It is a bit firmer, but the damping is much better and the car corners so much better.

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