SSI Performance

I have customer with a 1994 3.6L turbo engine complete With G50/52 transmission he has had a change in plans and would like me to sale off everything, motor & trans have 45k miles on them. It has TPC headers on it and Turbonetics turbo & HKS waste gate. The headers are damaged from accident they are bent at the collector but are repairable.

Customer had us disassemble top end of engine for inspection to make sure the engine is in good operating condition because it has been sitting in storage for 6 years. We are replaced the rod bearings & bolts, Piston rings & and all new gaskets.

Asking $20k for it all or can split up if we have a buyer for each.

Engine Code M64/50, Engine #62L09136, Vin WPOAC2964RS480270

AC/911's

Bought a RSR with a 3.8 by SSI, good work, Fast car, they PPI'd it ( even though it only have a couple thousand break in miles) & did a good Job helping me with Transport as well.

xilly

good to know

i send them a mail to see the cost of installing it in my 3.3
I may have to rebuild my motor so maybe it's better to buy a 3.6

william

Metal Guru

Why do you say you need to rebuild?
If you do, an alternative that you may consider would be to build an engine that would flat out embarrass any stock 3.6 and many newer Turbos.

C2 Turbo

Would you swap the 3.3 logo to 3.6 too

Honestly, I would rather spend the same money or less and have a shop rebuild yours but make sure the shop rebuilding the engine knows what they are doing.

Also find a shop closer to home in case if they did a sloppy job you can get back to them.

xilly

In fact I don't know yet what I'll need :-)

I have a modified engine (no invoices sadly):
- titanium valve spring retainers
- K27 turbo
- 964 cams
- Twin plugs
- Aftermarket headers
- teflon valve stem seals
- manganese bronze valve guides
- piston and cylinder kit
- piston rings and bearings
- ceramic coat the piston tops
- Chains, tensioners, rails etc
- ARP studs
- RS-spec lightweight clutch/flywheel

but no AC (no compressor) and no heating and an oil leak

First shop told me i need a rebuild of the engine
So I'm bringing now my car to second shop next week for an other opinion

Tx for the advice to keep the 3.3 and rebuild it instead of installing a 3.6

Metal Guru

Keep in mind that the "engine rebuild" diagnosis is the fallback position of many unscrupulous or incompetent shops.
Get a leakdown test performed before you agree to a rebuild. The only oil leak that would necessitate a rebuild would be the #8 bearing (there is an repair short of a rebuild even for this) or a hole in the crankcase, put there by a thrown rod. I think you would know if you threw a rod

Metal Guru

You bet

xilly

wondering what will be the value of a 3.3 with a 3.6 engine + rims
we'll need to add the big red brakes and it'll be almost a real 3.6

budge96

No disrespect to the original poster if they are a reputable shop and are representing the engine for
an independent party they may want to check the numbers on the case.
If this is the motor I think it is and I'm fairly certain I had an opportunity to buy almost four years back now,I met the original owner at Hershey and even bought the Speedlines from his car which I'm pretty certain was a 1991 3.3 .
This engine was acquired after en engine loss ie: over rev , and is actually a 91 or 90 3.6 NA case.
was rebuilt with the turbonetics turbo and headers by Mike Levitas at Turbo Performance Center in
Laurel /Jessup Md.
The car was subsequently wrecked and parted at least this is the info provided when I considered it for purchase..
Just an FYI, thanks Bert

Metal Guru

Probably the same as a 3.3.
I have Big Reds. They look great but didn't add a ton of extra stopping power.

GTgears

The shop is a reputable shop and I would suggest making an inquiry about details BEFORE casting aspersions regarding them representing a questionable situation related to a 4 year old deal. It could be the engine you think it is, but I would think it unlikely.

Checking a type number and serial number is really easy and any legitimate interested buyer would ask for this information anyway.

budge96

Mr Guard I prefaced my statement with no disrespect nor intent to
cast aspersions ...but again I'm fairly certain this is one and the same
power plant, the one offered to me also included the G50 trans and
had self same TPC headers and Turbonetics turbo.
I mean no harm to the shop just that it may be benificial to post
or for the sake of complete transparency disclose the type number
and production .
The engine also was in storage at lease five years at that point so
it's probably more like two years ago now since I saw it.
I'm away for the holiday but once home maybe able to recover the vin.
At this juncture a 3.6 turbo engine alone is 25 large so if I'm mistaken
certainly it's a good deal , but hey far to many similarities to excuse.
I live in DC and know a lot of guys in the business maybe not you
but quite a few that appreciate my 35 odd years collecting and
working on my own cars, thanks it's easy enough post the numbers
Bert

GTgears

I guess you and I look at it differently. I see this as Sloan's thread that you've taken a dump on like Kanye with his,"I'm gonna let you finish but..."

You think you are performing a service to the community. If you actually did more than post on the internet and reached out to the seller privately I would agree. But knowing the seller, my inclination is that he's not deliberately involved in some bait and switch activity and would appreciate that you gave him a heads up regarding the potential history at play, and would disclose it to us once you spoke to him. If he didn't, then your post warning the rest of us would be warranted. Disclaimer or not, your comments carry an insinuation of impropriety.

SSI Performance

Thanks for the info Bert, My customer ask me if I could sale it for him. I checked the engine code before I posted it's M64/50, engine #62L09136, Vin on crank case WP0AC2964RS480270 from what I see it's a USA 1994 3.6 turbo.