Metal Guru

Which Porsche is undervalued? I'd say the 997.2 GT3. It's not exactly undervalued but it should hold it's value for the next few years for the following reasons:
* It's the last of the Metzger engined cars (the Metzger engine was designed for the 930; aluminum alloy block and bigger bore spacing)
* It's the biggest capacity engine that the 997 GT3 came with at 3.8L
* It's the last of the manual transmission GT3's

You could just about sell a 964 3.3L Turbo today and move over to one of these cars for even money.
I prefer the 991 GT3 so I'm going to wait things out for a while.

John McM

That is a very capable machine. One person in our group took his out on the track and made a quick lap look like a Sunday Drive

DK964T

How about the 996 GT3? What are your thoughts on value and price appreciation? It's the last with no coddling traction control etc. just abs, lightweight and a stick shift

Metal Guru

It value seems to suffer from being as eye-gouging-ly ugly as all other 996's. Intermediate shaft bearing failures will always hold the 996 series back, IMO. We've seen with the 924's and 944's that cheap Porsches aren't especially well-cared for, either.
I would imagine it would make a great track car, however.

sportscarfreak

I agree with DK964T,

The 996 GT3 MKI (Clubsport).
The last handbuilt Porsche by Porsche Motorsport with the famous Hans Mezger engine

Cheers,
Luuk (also owner of a 2001 speedyellow GT3 MKI Clubsport)

DK964T

Only reason I say is cause I just added an 05 gt3 artic silver to my garage. I absolutely love it and considering air cooled prices I think I'm getting a lot for my money. It compliments the turbo very well. I would post pics but it's not working from my phone

Metal Guru

There's a butt for every seat, I surmise.....

Steven C.

I would trade my 964T for a 997.2 GT3 right now. Great car. But I like my DD 996 too so my opinion sucks. 126,000 miles and still going strong! Best, most reliable Pcar I have ever owned and that goes back to 1984.

If you like the Clubsport 996 stick your butt in it!

Metal Guru

Here's one someone could put their butt into for $58-62K http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...ellow-gt3.html
Pricey!
I don't see many of these for sale.
Good synopsis of the early GT3 history here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_911_GT3

Flachbau

In order of what I think will appreciate the most - not the highest priced necessarily:

1976/77 930 - low mileage examples only - built solely for homologation purposes - non-intercooled - 3.0 liter - low production

1989 930 - last of old body style - 5 speed

1980-1986 930 - Canadian models only which were not grey market imported to the U.S.

kevin5889

"Which Porsche is undervalued?"

I feel most Porsches are where they are at...

I do have a few I feel have some room for appreciation though

1. 996 GT3
2. 1989 944 Turbo S
3. 996 GT2


For the Future--Boxster Spyder and Cayman R-- Must be manuals with Sport bucket seats.

Steven C.

So I did a little research today while getting my Pcar shop to install new tires. The owner, who use to be a service tech at a dealership, says he was a service writer way before the water cooled cars came out(I knew that as he was my service writer then) in 97 and has owned his shop since around 2001 I am guessing and in all that time he has seen 2 intermediate shaft bearing failures in 911's or Boxster's. That's correct 2, out of hundreds of cars. He calls this myth the biggest joke he has ever heard of and the bad blocks and cylinder problems of the 99 - 01 cars a much worse issue. You would instantly know the dealership and his shop BTW. They sell a lot of Pcars too.

So you 996 guys, go have fun! Confirms my direct experiences too. Funny the spec Boxster guys laugh at this too and run the cra... out of those things. But the myth continues thanks to the drive by's..... but thanks for keeping the prices down.

Rant complete. We now take you back to your regularly scheduled thread..... although I did find a GT3 RS to trade my turbo for. But it's black?

Flachbau

I track bikes. Bikes are 10x more fun, more intense and more interactive than cars ... but I digress.

My point is that bikes (well at least Jap bikes) are cheap to repair or worst case to write off if you bin it v. a car (Porsche). A 996 is the Porsche equivalent of the Jap bike paradigm.

You can buy a base high mileage 996 for from $15k-20K. That's less than a used track prepped late model Ducati. This makes a 996 a bargain track car - no modification required. Buy one, track the crap out of it without fear, learn to drive, change the oil and tires from time to time - wash rinse repeat. Who cares if it is ugly - its a track car!

Bottom line is the 996 is not an investment and never will be IMO - it is a beat it to death drive it till it dies fun machine. And the only difference between a base 1999 and a 05' GT2 is how much you can afford to spend on a car that if you wreck it you can live with that.

Turbo Jonny

After i sold my Turbo i picked up a well maintained 996 turbo for what seemed chump
Change . I think it looks ok , is very usable , and am arranging a track
Day as soon as possible ! I am not worried about the weather and know that if it does
Get pranged it is much easier and cheaper to repair . It is giving me my 911 turbo fix
Nicely for the time being and am happy that the values are flat for the forseeable
Future . Longer term i do see GT2 /3 versions of the 996 being pumped up by the dealers
Next ,In the UK at least .

Flachbau

Pebble Beach auction results should be interesting. Some of the estimated price ranges make no sense to me at all .... we'll see.