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If title is clean, no signs of bad bodywork or rust, and the owner has a paper trail to go with it, buy it unless the PPI unearths something bad. No a lot of 964 coupes out there for sale.
Buy it!! If you are somewhat of a DIY person and are willing to learn I would focus only on the major items with the PPI. The 964 is still very serviceable by an enthusiast with common tools. New and used parts are readily available and can be found reasonably priced if you shop around and avoid the speculators. For things that need attention or TLC you can research and find the know-how on this site by the outstanding folks that contribute to it. If this coupe meets your wishlist and has a clean title and hopefully no serious damage history I would not hesitate at $30K.
Owners with a 1 year old, family friends. I think someone won't be very happy if you get it for $30k and it is worth $45k.
Get the PPI, and offer them a fair price based on what is found. It's not worth shafting a friend over a few bucks. Your conscience will thank you.
Thank you for saying it.
A family friend of 18 years tried to sell me his car once. He said the car worth $50k, but for you I sell $40k. Carfax shown the car salvage, I confronted the dude and his wife. Haven't heard from them since, these are also the people that go to church every Sunday and preach on you.
45K?...really? Bought mine(1990 C2 coupe with 92Kmls) in 2011 for 18K. Seriously, have these things risen that much? Good god, think I will sale mine and buy a 997. These 964s can't even outrun a new Camry these days. What is the point. Don't spend 30K without a PPI. Truly think the 964 and all air cooled 911s are the next bubble....POP!!!
When deals like this come up give it a good drive and look over and buy without PPI. I paid 27k for my 92 964 C2 in April of 2016. Like you it wasn't advertised but I didn't want to risk losing it. Made offer and took the car home.
45K?...really? Bought mine(1990 C2 coupe with 92Kmls) in 2011 for 18K. Seriously, have these things risen that much? Good god, think I will sale mine and buy a 997. These 964s can't even outrun a new Camry these days. What is the point. Don't spend 30K without a PPI. Truly think the 964 and all air cooled 911s are the next bubble....POP!!!
Really nice cars are over 45k. Average drivers are not. The subject of this thread doesn't have enough details to tell the difference. But in my mind a not used much lately 911 belonging to a couple with a one year old screams inheritance. If it was a well loved car for its life it could easily be over $45k, just have a look at the threads by people looking for a nice car.
A 30-40k 964 isn't a "bubble" 911. My 1990 listed new for a little over $70k, that would be $120ish in today's dollars, $40k is a third of that. Is anything that is only worth a third of its new price in a "bubble", not in my opinion, it's just a driver. Now if you are talking longhoods, where the actual utility takes a dive, while the price goes up two or three times, or a really rare car, it's a different story.
There are no sub$30k 911's with no stories anymore. Just the engine and trans from yours is worth more than what you paid for the whole car. What would you think if a friend talked you out of it for $10-15k less than it would sell for on the open market?
Thanks to everyone for your comments. My brother recently purchased a 1989 C2 manual from a very close family friend. In order to avoid any bad blood over selling a used car to a friend, they agreed the sale price to be either $30k or $35k depending on the outcome of the PPI. Both parties knew the shop where the PPI was to take place and agreed that the decision of the "arbiter" would be final. Both parties had done business with the shop previously and fully trusted the decision of the shop. When the car was picked up from the seller, there was no back glass installed and some of the interior required re-installation. This had not been previously disclosed. The decision of the shop was that based on the condition of the car at the time of the sale, that the price would be $30k. This seemed like a fair method and a reasonable outcome based on the actual condition of the car. I offered the seller of the black '91 C2 the exact same deal. I will leave the money on deposit and the PPI will determine the sale price of the car. If it needs significant work, $30k. If it does not, $35k. If the PPI is a complete failure, no deal. I trust the judgement of the shop to determine the condition of the car. No big surprises for either party and $5k is not a dealbreaker. The PPI will take place in April (snow has to melt before moving the car). The car will be flatbedded to the shop for the inspection. The great news is that I end up with the car. Now the waiting. Pics were taken last week of the car tucked away in the garage for the long winter.
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