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Old 11-16-2015, 12:43 AM
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Default Sadly time to sell - how to value?

Porsche 911 Carrera 4 Cabriolet (964) 1991 Manual

Circumstances force me to sell my much loved and well looked after 964 – I have owned this car since 2001. I am just not in a position to enjoy it any more. Note the history of my ownership and care for this car is basically tracked on this site, search my posts since 2002.

I have not kept up with prices, I would love for advice as to what I should look for before I list it.

Detailed description below. Photos follow

Thank you

Overview
• VIN WP0CB2964MS461383
• Mileage now: 78461
• Rust free Texas Car One owner since 5/7/2001 at 60874 miles 2 prior owners.
• Jim Ellis, Atlanta delivered car on 09/04/1991 then in Texas from 1994
• Rebuilt engine, $24,877.19 rebuilt less than 2000 miles ago 12/2012
• Additional recent spend of $4600
• Comes with full service history

Original Option Codes
• Paint L92E LT
• CO2 – Catalytic Converter
• 158 – Radio Monterey {note replaced with Sony iPod unit}
• 437 – Comfort Seat Left (replaced with 993 comfort seats – see below)
• 454 – Automatic Speed Control
• 494 – 2 speakers on back
• 494 – Amplifier System

Mileage
• Note speedo change 11/2003 – old one had the peeling was changed at 69990. New one had 543 miles on it when replaced.
• So total is 69990+9014 less 543 =78461

Engine
• Rebuild with Pauter Rods by Buckley Racing:

Part Description: Part number Qty
Oil pump - OE 964 96410701111 1
Exhaust studs 5
Upper end gasket kit 96410090200 1
Engine lower gasket set 93010090104 1
Head gaskets 96410411520 6
Exhaust nuts 99908405202 8
Rocker shaft seals 91109910352 24
Oil return tubes 90110735101 4
Main bearings - OE 96410190100 1
#8 nose bearing 96410113801 1
Jerry Woods rod bearings 112333 1
Intermediate shaft bearings - front 99613143570 2
Intermediate shaft bearings - rear 99610113780 2
Timing chains 99310552900 2
Chain guide rails 96410504302 2
Flywheel bolts 92810215101 9
Air filter 96411032701 1
Oil Filter OC54 1
Oil line, t-stat to oil filter console 96420725214 1
Oil line, engine to oil filter console 96420725407 1
Spark Plugs - Bosch 99917018390 12
Distributor caps 93060291901 2
Distributor rotors 93060290202 2
Alternator and fan belts 99919233850 2
Fuel Filter - KL21 92811025306 1
Engine sound pad 96455628101 1
Rocker molding clips 99959191640 3
Brad Penn 20W50 Oil - 13 Qts - break in 13
Brad Penn 20W50 Oil - initial oil change 12
Valve cover gasket set PK-03 1
Shop supplies, sealants, fasteners, misc. 1
Fuse box cover 96461002200 1
Engine tin screws 99914300408 8
Plastic nuts for under tray 99904900740 8
Accelerator cable grommet 1
Air box 96411003005 1
Engine reference sensor 99660610501 1
Allen head screws for fan pulley 90011902602 3
Dual mass flywheel - LUK 96411401202 1
Clutch kit 96411691101 1
Clutch lever update kit. 101518090 1
Guide tube 95011681306 1
Clutch bolts 99911901701 9
Lower valve covers - billet Haggert 1
upper valve covers - billet Haggert 1
Mahle Pistons and cylinders 3.6 liter 1
Pauter rods - 4130 PAUT964 1
Valve guides 12
Fan pulley shims 96410651701 2
Motul 300 synthetic gear oil 1
Relay Connector body - eng. Fuse box 1
Oil line butterfly brackets 96420730300 2
Plugs for rear engine tin access holes 96410623701 2
Plugs for torque tube access holes 99970323340 2
Battery - Optima 1
Used heat shielding for catalytic converter 1
• Full check up, oil change, and valve adjustment in May 2015
• Cup Bypass

Interior
• ATIWE GT Sport steering wheel (same as RUF) w/airbag & Porsche Crest
• Replaced Tachometer with Computer one and replaced 3 stalk unit with 4 stalk unit
• New 993 clock
• Footmats embroidered with Porsche Crest
• 993 Turbo black leather seats with embossed Porsche Logo – driver is 8 way way electric (new switch this year) passenger is 4 way electric
• Windstop
• Replaced door seals
• Wired for radar detector
• Aluminum and stainless steel trim parts –
o Bezel
o A/C switches
o Type 911 UK Gear **** and leather boot
o Type 911 UK Alloy handbrake grip
o Door locking *****
o Rennline pedals and dead pedal
• Leather door inserts
• Sony iPod/radio
• Bird Storage Armrest & Cupholder
• Inventiva Concepts AIR-1 Cupholder under passenger seat
• Full Porsche Toolkit
• Drivers Manual
• Porsche Badged door steps

Bodywork
• Replaced convertible top – ***’s Auto Trim and Upholstery - Fort Worth
• Hood is set for manual lift and auto latching –the common mod on this model, allowing for manual lifting and avoiding the risk of the electrical motors breaking the frame. The electrical motors were working fine when I made this mod in around 2003.
• Tonneau cover.
• 993 rear brake basket handle replacing 964 periscope
• 993 AERO side mirrors
• AJ USA shock tower brace
• Headlights replaced with H4’s and bezel painted to match car and headlight film on each
• Front RSR 2 piece splitters from from Rennspeed
• Porsche bumper plugs
• Replaced rear blinkers and Porsche name strip
• Full tool kit
• Front blinkers replaced with Euro Clears
• 17” Porsche Boxster Turbo wheels
• Painted Porsche Wheel Inserts
• Seat rail adjusted for tall drivers

Running Gear
• Roock Suspension – Euro 964RS ride height
• Replaced steering rack with rebuilt one in 2009, new tie rods etc.
• Porsche 964 RS brake upgrade – red calipers, braker rotors, hoses, pads, also rear parking brake shoes
o 964RS Calipers in red
o Rotors
o Front caliper adapters with fittings
• Axle boots replaced and CV joints
• 17 in Porsche Boxster wheels
• 17 in Spacesaver
• Tires: Goodrich G Force Sports – 255/40/17 rear, 205/50/17 front – less than 3k miles on them (installed at 6007 miles)

AirCon
• Runs cold. Even in Texas.
• New compressor, condenser, drier, expansion valve 10/2000
• Converted to run on R134a

To do’s
• Front bonnet needs new strut
• Slight undersurface crackle on front bumper cracking under the surface – tried to catch it in photos – it is hard to see in most light.
• Recently replaced gear linkage joint – shifting is like a new one: stiff!








































































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Old 11-16-2015, 02:41 AM
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Great car, I'm not current on cab prices, but I'd love to know more about the steering wheel.
Old 11-16-2015, 07:09 AM
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I would guess around 35K-40K.
Old 11-16-2015, 10:53 AM
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Just curious....why the "complete" engine rebuild??
Old 11-16-2015, 01:03 PM
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Why the rebuild? Oil pump failure, before you joined the site. I then chose to have a full rebuild done because I thought i would be keeping the car forever.
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Not sure what can prices are like, but I'd venture to guess 40k is a good starting point.
Great looking 964. Sorry to hear you have to move on. Glws
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Gives the meaning to "no expense spared". Good luck with the sale.
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Beautiful car with great mods. Put it on Bring A Trailor Auctions with a reserve of $40k. They typically get top dollar on that site.
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Thanks all for info and good wishes.

I had not heard of Bring A Trailor Auctions - anyone here used them?

Any recommendations for Dallas consignment sellers? I have a recommendation for Texas Classic Cars. Anyone dealt with them?



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