VIN / Chassis Numbers
02-05-2017, 02:10 PM
#31
02-05-2017, 04:22 PM
#34
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I have a build document form Porsche which shows the VIN to belong to a 1989 Red C4 with country equip C26 (South Africa) and engine number 62K02149
So it appears that the car details associated with the VIN number have been changed on the NZ registration data base but subsequently an alarm has rung and the car has been flagged and registration blocked.
The only explanation I can envisage is that that someone has transferred the VIN from the 'Red 89 C4 to a C2 and tried to reregister and at the same time asked for change to engine number. The registration was part completed (sufficiently for the records to be changed) and then flagged and stopped.
As you correctly observe the only course of action is to find the correct VIN number and then show bona fide ownership. I suspect the latter part of the equation will be difficult because there would have been no reason to change the VIN if the title of the C2 was clear.
Still it remains an interesting puzzle ... if only to alert the original owner/insurer of the C2.
Frustrating really because it is a nice tidy car.
02-05-2017, 05:22 PM
#37
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Agree. I think this is a 'born again' C2 ... the challenge is to uncover it's dark secret past. If I can't match the build number to a VIN I will try now to see if Porsche can match the engine number to a VIN and see if the build sheet from that VIN matches the spec of this car. Incidentally anyone know the code/name of this colour. It is a very light silver/blue metallic.
02-05-2017, 05:41 PM
#38
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BTW thanks John 964 I checked and you are correct. never paid much attention to them. I checked the sunroof panel I have and no markings so only the key components. I have an RSA tail on my C2 there is an indent along the top lip in the center. This is where they mark the RSA lids I am assuming my turbo as well.
beamishnz,
That is a shame. It is rare you see one in such clean condition. If that car was ever color changed someone did a better than amazing job. I dare to say it is more likely a quick export and illegal entry someplace before it ended there.
It clearly isn't an 89 more like a 92 through 94. Wheels mirrors, wiper arms, brake calipers all lead to being a late model 964. My guess a 93 or 94. There is so much involved to make an 89 to look like a late model. Nearly every part on these cars were modified to some degree over the life. If more than X add up after a point you can narrow down what year exactly.
Damn that would be a shame if it can't be titled. That car needs to be driven. I am guessing there is someone someplace missing a very nice car.
Sorry but this will probably end up being scrapped or equally sad parted out.
If you can check if the rear engine latch is the old style round vs new style hook and it has electrical leads running to the latch for the lights it is a late model.
beamishnz,
That is a shame. It is rare you see one in such clean condition. If that car was ever color changed someone did a better than amazing job. I dare to say it is more likely a quick export and illegal entry someplace before it ended there.
It clearly isn't an 89 more like a 92 through 94. Wheels mirrors, wiper arms, brake calipers all lead to being a late model 964. My guess a 93 or 94. There is so much involved to make an 89 to look like a late model. Nearly every part on these cars were modified to some degree over the life. If more than X add up after a point you can narrow down what year exactly.
Damn that would be a shame if it can't be titled. That car needs to be driven. I am guessing there is someone someplace missing a very nice car.
Sorry but this will probably end up being scrapped or equally sad parted out.
If you can check if the rear engine latch is the old style round vs new style hook and it has electrical leads running to the latch for the lights it is a late model.
02-05-2017, 05:58 PM
#39
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My guess if it has blue cast it is Polar silver 92 E I believe. Is there a sticker in the frunk showing color?
02-05-2017, 06:57 PM
#40
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I'm half tempted to buy it and then keep the research going with a view of finding the VIN and negotiating clear title. If it is stolen (off shore) and I suspect it is since it maybe that I can negotiate clear title from the previous owner/insurer. Otherwise track or parts
As you observe it is a nice example and a shame not to get it back on to the road.
02-05-2017, 07:10 PM
#42
02-05-2017, 07:22 PM
#43
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02-06-2017, 05:22 AM
#45
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I read elsewhere that the build numbers for a 964 are located as follows: Parcel shelf under carpet by rear window it is also , the frame under the ‘ knee pad’ by the ashtray (as John has indicated and also the last 4 digits of that number will be stamped on the hood (by the left hinge) and also on the engine cover (on the back edge between the hinges). On a 944 (which I know somewhat better) we have a sticker with the day of build completion in the rear cubby on the RH side beneath the carpet. 