Carbon Fiber Floor Boards
05-10-2002, 04:58 PM
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Carbon Fiber Floor Boards
Attached are pictures of the first set of 964 floor boards made in honeycombed carbon fiber -- stronger than the originals and will not rot -- and after being drilled on the underside, significantly lighter.
05-11-2002, 08:08 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by Robert Linton:
<strong>I do not post things to sell them. I do, however, think that certain items might be of technical interest.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hi Robert! Ok technical interest is high <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" /> , where can we get the stuff??
Cheers THOMAS
<strong>I do not post things to sell them. I do, however, think that certain items might be of technical interest.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hi Robert! Ok technical interest is high <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" /> , where can we get the stuff??
Cheers THOMAS
05-11-2002, 08:36 AM
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Robert, those carbon bits are tantilising.
O.K. got any more?
Can you list some of the trick bits you know about? At least if I can't get the stuff I can dream about it?
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Stephen Smith
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O.K. got any more?
Can you list some of the trick bits you know about? At least if I can't get the stuff I can dream about it?
Regards
Stephen Smith
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05-11-2002, 10:06 AM
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Some of the carbon fiber pieces resulting from an effort in which I am involved:
1. Carbon Fiber Front Spoilers (like those used on the Type 964 3.8 RSR)
2. Carbon Fiber Front Bumper Oil Cooler/Transmission Cooler/Front Brake Cooling Ducts
3. Carbon Fiber/Titanium Front Damper Tower Brace
4. Carbon Fiber/Titanium Track Control Arms (aka "A" arms or wishbones)
5. Carbon Fiber Track Control Arms Supports (Träger links and rechts)
6. Carbon Fiber Cross Member (Querträger)
7. Carbon Fiber/Kevlar Fuel Cell
8. Carbon Fiber Oil Cooler/Transmission Cooler Mounting Platform
9. Carbon Fiber Condenser Mounting Platform
10. Carbon Fiber Fender Mounted Brake Cooling Ducts
11. Carbon Fiber Upright (spindle) Mounted Front Wheel Bearings/Brakes Cooling Ducts
12. Carbon Fiber Fuel Pump Area Cover
13. Carbon Fiber Center Tunnel Cover
14. Carbon Fiber/Titanium Control Arms (the "banana arm") with Titanium Spring Plates
15. Carbon Fiber Tiptronic Transmission Fluid Pan
16. Carbon Fiber Rear Wheel Bearings/Brakes Cooling Ducts
17. Carbon Fiber Outboard CV Cooling Ducts
18. Carbon Fiber Engine Encasing ("sheet metal")
19. Carbon Fiber/Titanium Air Conditioning Compressor Bracket
20. Carbon Fiber/Titanium Engine Bracket
21. Carbon Fiber/Titanium Engine Mounts
22. Carbon Fiber Adjustable Rear Wing and Kevlar Engine Compartment Lid
23. Carbon Fiber Pedal Board
24. Carbon Fiber Driver and Passenger Side Floor Boards
25. Carbon Fiber Center Tunnel Insert
26. Carbon Fiber Center Console
27. Carbon Fiber Engine Valve Covers
28. Carbon Fiber Fire Extinguisher
1. Carbon Fiber Front Spoilers (like those used on the Type 964 3.8 RSR)
2. Carbon Fiber Front Bumper Oil Cooler/Transmission Cooler/Front Brake Cooling Ducts
3. Carbon Fiber/Titanium Front Damper Tower Brace
4. Carbon Fiber/Titanium Track Control Arms (aka "A" arms or wishbones)
5. Carbon Fiber Track Control Arms Supports (Träger links and rechts)
6. Carbon Fiber Cross Member (Querträger)
7. Carbon Fiber/Kevlar Fuel Cell
8. Carbon Fiber Oil Cooler/Transmission Cooler Mounting Platform
9. Carbon Fiber Condenser Mounting Platform
10. Carbon Fiber Fender Mounted Brake Cooling Ducts
11. Carbon Fiber Upright (spindle) Mounted Front Wheel Bearings/Brakes Cooling Ducts
12. Carbon Fiber Fuel Pump Area Cover
13. Carbon Fiber Center Tunnel Cover
14. Carbon Fiber/Titanium Control Arms (the "banana arm") with Titanium Spring Plates
15. Carbon Fiber Tiptronic Transmission Fluid Pan
16. Carbon Fiber Rear Wheel Bearings/Brakes Cooling Ducts
17. Carbon Fiber Outboard CV Cooling Ducts
18. Carbon Fiber Engine Encasing ("sheet metal")
19. Carbon Fiber/Titanium Air Conditioning Compressor Bracket
20. Carbon Fiber/Titanium Engine Bracket
21. Carbon Fiber/Titanium Engine Mounts
22. Carbon Fiber Adjustable Rear Wing and Kevlar Engine Compartment Lid
23. Carbon Fiber Pedal Board
24. Carbon Fiber Driver and Passenger Side Floor Boards
25. Carbon Fiber Center Tunnel Insert
26. Carbon Fiber Center Console
27. Carbon Fiber Engine Valve Covers
28. Carbon Fiber Fire Extinguisher
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05-11-2002, 07:50 PM
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Robert
Er..thanks, do you think that I can make some of these carbon bits myself......not.
What is the difference in performance characteristics between carbon and kevlar for example I note that most of the items are carbon but the engine compartment lid you say that it is kevlar.
Regards
Stephen Smith
Er..thanks, do you think that I can make some of these carbon bits myself......not.
What is the difference in performance characteristics between carbon and kevlar for example I note that most of the items are carbon but the engine compartment lid you say that it is kevlar.
Regards
Stephen Smith
05-11-2002, 07:57 PM
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Long explanation as to difference between carbon fiber (of which there are numerous varieties, certain of which can be mixed depending upon characteristics required) and kevlar. As to engine lid, that was a typo, it should have read carbon fiber. On the other hand, for reasons of weight, strength and tear resistance, fuel cell is combination of carbon fiber and Kevlar while "banana" is composed of several types of carbon fiber for strength as well as stiffness.
05-11-2002, 08:28 PM
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Perhaps this should be a separate posting, but as we are talking about carbon fiber, attached are two pictures of carbon fiber a arms for Type 964 and Type 993. The ball joint, by the way, is titanium as are the fasteners.
05-11-2002, 10:25 PM
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Robert,
Those A-arms have to be just about the most incredible piece of engineering I've ever seen.
Either you work at an F-1 team or you own your own aerospace firm!
Nice job!
Marc <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
Those A-arms have to be just about the most incredible piece of engineering I've ever seen.
Either you work at an F-1 team or you own your own aerospace firm!
Nice job!
Marc <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
05-11-2002, 11:01 PM
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I fabricated my floors out of a Nomex Honeycomb core, carbon fiber top and fiberglass bottom skins. The driver and passenger side weight ~1.5 lbs together. You can get the prefabricated Honeycomb panels from Applied Vehicle Technology <a href="http://www.avtcomposites.com" target="_blank">www.avtcomposites.com</a> in 0.290 thick 2' X 4' sheets about $200/sheet. You just cut it like plywood with a jig saw with a very fine blade and I finished the edges with black tape.
David K
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PS Bob, That's where Ray got the idea for your car.
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PS Bob, That's where Ray got the idea for your car.
05-11-2002, 11:29 PM
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Marc:
Your judgment is quite good. They are the work of some of the finest F1/Aerospace engineers in the world -- and the design/engineering work is quite rigorous. But they are nothing compared to when, in a few weeks, you see the carbon fiber/titanium swing arms! As to David K.'s method of making floor boards, it certainly should do the trick for his purpose.
Your judgment is quite good. They are the work of some of the finest F1/Aerospace engineers in the world -- and the design/engineering work is quite rigorous. But they are nothing compared to when, in a few weeks, you see the carbon fiber/titanium swing arms! As to David K.'s method of making floor boards, it certainly should do the trick for his purpose.
05-11-2002, 11:48 PM
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By the way, have you noticed the titanium/aluminum drop link in the picture (to which will be attached a 4130 adjustable anti roll bar)? And, although you cannot see it, you might be interested in the attached pictures of a one-piece cast titanium upright with a titanium centerlock hub with integrated titanium driving pegs and a 300M center screw for a Type 964 and Type 993 -- the carbon fiber duct on the back attaches to a proper wheel bearing/brake cooling system. Although this is a work in progress, over the next few months, attached to it will be a titanium/aluminum track rod, billet titanium struts with adjustable dampers, two-piece (main and helper) titanium springs and lithium aluminum 8 piston calipers and carbon ceramic rotors mounted to a tianium/aluminum brake bell.
05-12-2002, 12:32 PM
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Robert:
1) Many thanks for the confirmation of my good judgement. After all, I do own a 964!
2) Clearly I have missed something here: either your real name is Bill Gates, or you are building the only 964 that will be capable of taking off, flying the 300,000 km or so to the moon, landing, doing a 24-hour race, then returning to Earth!
Either way, I am unbelievably impressed. Congratulations to you and your team on some truly beautiful (and amazing) work. WOW!
Marc
<img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
1) Many thanks for the confirmation of my good judgement. After all, I do own a 964!
2) Clearly I have missed something here: either your real name is Bill Gates, or you are building the only 964 that will be capable of taking off, flying the 300,000 km or so to the moon, landing, doing a 24-hour race, then returning to Earth!
Either way, I am unbelievably impressed. Congratulations to you and your team on some truly beautiful (and amazing) work. WOW!
Marc
<img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />