1994 Speedster Widebody?
06-20-2010, 12:31 PM
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I've consistently heard that inclusive factory 911 Speedster gear costs $20,000 USD if you can find it.
I once contacted a FL eBayer who had a windshield with antenna, frame mounting points, humps & cable from a 1994. He had already sold 'em to a customer in Germany for $10k USD.
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06-20-2010, 12:32 PM
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There have been different topics about the speedster parts(including the windshield, doors, glass, hump, mounting hardware for under the hump) on rennlist and pelican. I am following these threads since I hope to build/let one build for me another day in the future.
LA Porsche Dismantlers sometimes have these windshields and other speedster parts
Otherwise try to search these parts regularly on Ebay and other sites.
I seem to remember that the total of parts, excluding working costs for mechanics, was about 15000 US dollars (someone calculated that).
LA Porsche Dismantlers sometimes have these windshields and other speedster parts
Otherwise try to search these parts regularly on Ebay and other sites.
I seem to remember that the total of parts, excluding working costs for mechanics, was about 15000 US dollars (someone calculated that).
) on the 993 Forum's "Speedster type 993 photo thread." For reference:- Post #41 totals up the new Strosek-style parts that Extreme Motorcars advertises for ~$15k USD.
- Post #117 starts with that list, but prices new OEM Porsche factory parts: >$30k USD.
In general, the above estimates are just for new basic/required parts for a narrow-body Speedster from a 993 cab. Neither includes fabrication & labor costs, wide-body parts, OEM Speedster seats, etc.
I seem to remember that the total of parts, excluding working costs for mechanics, was about 15000 US dollars (someone calculated that). But this was using Speedster doors I think. You could also adjust your regular 964 doors (right?).
I wouldn't mind mine (if I will ever own one) if it would be original or not. As long as it is very well build and looks original or beautifully adjusted (like the black one from Japan).
I wouldn't mind mine (if I will ever own one) if it would be original or not. As long as it is very well build and looks original or beautifully adjusted (like the black one from Japan).
06-20-2010, 01:06 PM
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Much more information in this Pelican Parts thread, started in 2008: "WTB: Porsche 911 Speedster Windshield Frame + doors." It was started in '08, & continues with posts as recently as this month. Good info on dash differences, doors, & more.
You'll see posts by RLers obersturm (Martin) & JPP (Jon Paul) + others there, too.
One excerpt:
You'll see posts by RLers obersturm (Martin) & JPP (Jon Paul) + others there, too.
One excerpt:
Originally Posted by Sonjay
I can make your cab doors Speedster doors I made four Speedster for customers and I have one on the way down from Stow Ma (BoxsterGT) has a car we are doing. I'm in Winter Park Fl the cost will be $500.00 per door I'll need the glass, window reg, window rubber inside and out it will take two week and it will come back to you in primer ready to have your painter finish the painting to your color.
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Originally Posted by obersturm
Hi Gary,
since you have done the conversion, would you mind sharing some pictures of the build process and whats involved, please?
How do you get the window frame cut down and the Speedster frame installed?
I hear the Speedster Windscreen can be detached for Motorsport activities by unbolting just two bolts?
How is the dash diffrent from the standart Cabriolet?
Thanks and ebst regards
Martin
since you have done the conversion, would you mind sharing some pictures of the build process and whats involved, please?
How do you get the window frame cut down and the Speedster frame installed?
I hear the Speedster Windscreen can be detached for Motorsport activities by unbolting just two bolts?
How is the dash diffrent from the standart Cabriolet?
Thanks and ebst regards
Martin
Originally Posted by Sonjay
I had pictures in a album and they got wet and that was the end of that. I will be taking pictures of this next two builds. As for the window frame it need to be cut off about two inches from the door level then split and layed down and welded. It's very easy to do if you have all the right tools. When you lay the metal down close the door and leave a 5 MM gap from what you layed down and welded and the closed door, and it must be flat. To install the Speedster frame will take two people. The hole to mount the frame well need to be cut with a hole saw from the under side of the door mount area. Put tape on the cowl and the frame were the hole are so you can mark where the holes are on the window frame, then get a wooden rod 2" log and put four of them in the hole on the frame line up the marks take the frame off and put paint on the end of the wooden rods and set it down again this will tell you were you need to use the 1" hole saw. You'll need some 1"OD pipe. Use the saw and cut down at the same angle as the wooden rod thru the dash and down, you may need a long drill rod when you get the first hole cut to reach the lower area. All cutting done set the frame back on the car if everything is right it's time to weld the 1" pipe in the hole. The bolt hole on the frame have a slight angle to them so you'll a washer with the same angle (hit the center of the washer with a hammer to shape it) Weld the washer angel down to the top of the 1" pipe, make the pipe as long as you need for it to hang down thru the holes that you've just cut. Put the frame back on the car again and have the person helping you hold the frame in place so you can put all four pipes in the holes and do a trill fit (make sure that the frames center tab is in place (small piece of metal in the center of the under side of the frame) this center parts on the frame works as a weg to hold the frame down when you tighen the bolts. Is well take a while I'll try to get some pictures to you that well help. Give me you Email address so I can send them you. Good luck
gary
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Originally Posted by Sonjay
One more thing , do you have the clam shell? And the dash is different at the very ends where the bolt holes are.
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06-20-2010, 01:33 PM
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FS in France:
Porsche 911 "G" Speedster Turbo Look; original manufacture date 3/1990; VIN WPOZZZ91ZKS152723; 3.2L configuration 3.6L RS. No affiliation.
Originally Posted by juicersr
06-20-2010, 03:29 PM
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Nice!
That Auto Sports speedster, does it look like its lowered to RS height? Seems lower than RS height to me. What do you guys think??
On the yellow mounting metal parts, is that the whole dash? Looks like this metal dash can be unbolted and swapped with the dash insitu. I didn't know these were bolted items, thought they were welded. Did I get this right??
That Auto Sports speedster, does it look like its lowered to RS height? Seems lower than RS height to me. What do you guys think??
On the yellow mounting metal parts, is that the whole dash? Looks like this metal dash can be unbolted and swapped with the dash insitu. I didn't know these were bolted items, thought they were welded. Did I get this right??
01-25-2011, 04:04 AM
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Hi there,
The windscreen and and frame are bolted on and can easily be removed (I was told the 1989 Speedsters had a special tool for that in the factory tool kit)
The yellow metal bits under the windscreen are welded and were probably removed by
drilling out spot welds and some handy work with an angle grinder I would imagine.
Best regards
Marty
The windscreen and and frame are bolted on and can easily be removed (I was told the 1989 Speedsters had a special tool for that in the factory tool kit)
The yellow metal bits under the windscreen are welded and were probably removed by
drilling out spot welds and some handy work with an angle grinder I would imagine.
Best regards
Marty
03-20-2011, 03:55 AM
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FS in France:
Porsche 911 "G" Speedster Turbo Look; original manufacture date 3/1990; VIN WPOZZZ91ZKS152723; 3.2L configuration 3.6L RS. No affiliation.
Auto-occasion.fr's "Porsche 911 speedster turbo look" (no affiliation)...
03-20-2011, 07:53 AM
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Hi there,
The windscreen and and frame are bolted on and can easily be removed (I was told the 1989 Speedsters had a special tool for that in the factory tool kit)
The yellow metal bits under the windscreen are welded and were probably removed by
drilling out spot welds and some handy work with an angle grinder I would imagine.
Best regards
Marty
The windscreen and and frame are bolted on and can easily be removed (I was told the 1989 Speedsters had a special tool for that in the factory tool kit)
The yellow metal bits under the windscreen are welded and were probably removed by
drilling out spot welds and some handy work with an angle grinder I would imagine.
Best regards
Marty
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03-20-2011, 12:06 PM
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Thank for the info. I have also asked my local Porsche Dealer. One sales person that have been there for 15 years swears that two were sold by his dealership. He is the one that told me about the M code. He did not know the actual code. He is only person that saids they exist, so you might be right. Thank you!
Over the years, I've personally seen a few "Special Wishes" program and following that, Porsche Exclusive built limited production models built and sold through U.S. Dealerships as factory 'new' cars. Also, in the past when the factory could not or would not build cars that dealerships had orders for, Porsche would 'sanction' the dealers to take standard delivery cars and modify them to customers be-spoke orders such as Vasek Polak's early lightweight S/T 911's and 914-6GT's that were manufactured from factory supplied 'kits' that could be purchased and 'installed' by certain qualified dealers. My 1998 Cabriolet was special ordered in a run of 5 cars by Beverly Hills Porsche through Porsche Exclusive and sold 'as new' with all of the Porsche factory warranties in place despite the fact that the cars were delivered to the dealership as narrow body Cabriolets and then 'converted' by BHP into Turbo Bodied cars using 'kits' supplied by the factory. Unfortunately, in many cases, there are no special option numbers or designations on the cars or paperwork that ties them to their end state or describes the modifications that were sanctioned by the factory, just the cars themselves and the often faded memories of the people who witnessed their creation.
03-20-2011, 02:54 PM
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My 1998 Cabriolet was special ordered in a run of 5 cars by Beverly Hills Porsche through Porsche Exclusive and sold 'as new' with all of the Porsche factory warranties in place despite the fact that the cars were delivered to the dealership as narrow body Cabriolets and then 'converted' by BHP into Turbo Bodied cars using 'kits' supplied by the factory.
Unfortunately, in many cases, there are no special option numbers or designations on the cars or paperwork that ties them to their end state or describes the modifications that were sanctioned by the factory, just the cars themselves and the often faded memories of the people who witnessed their creation.
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03-22-2011, 02:45 AM
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Excellent low mile Speedsters (less than 20K miles) are north of $80 for perfect cars. Nearly 80% of the production is red, other colors demand a 20-25% premium over the red, not so much for black but for silver, white, or a bespoken blue example. With 409 North American cars and dozens wrecked or exported the pickings are getting slim with great cars being sold word of mouth. I just bought 2 that never hit the market and had to fight for them. Again color plays a role in price with about 50 black cars, 35 white, half a dozen in yellow and silver and a hand full of paint to sample cars, the remaining are ALL RED cars. So the short answer is, the Speedster in some cased is twice the market value of a similar RSA particulary in silver, white, blue, or yellow.
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03-22-2011, 09:56 PM
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03-24-2011, 01:39 AM
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The Carrera 2 Speedster was factory internal option M503 on a Cabriolet chassis, that's how Porsche kept track of Speedster production on the books and on their build schedules. As quoted from the Porsche 911 Red Book Second Edition (Patrick Paternie) "A run of 3000 was planned but only 936 were built."
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03-24-2011, 03:41 PM
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