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noob may have seized his engine

Old 07-27-2014, 08:34 PM
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24mm deep socket right in the center right? i should be able to turn clockwise? how much force?
Old 07-27-2014, 08:44 PM
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i can rotate the pulley clockwise - which would mean that the engine is not seized?
Old 07-27-2014, 09:14 PM
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Correct. My guess is that you have a fuel flow problem, from something reconnected improperly.
Old 07-27-2014, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by uroboric
i can rotate the pulley clockwise - which would mean that the engine is not seized?
clockwise. yes.

spark plugs in or out?
if they're still in, is there compression
if you're out can you hear any noises?

can you do a full 360° crank?
Old 07-28-2014, 12:51 AM
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have not been able to do a full turn yet, had to leave earlier but was able to do a partial crank. i dont really have enough room to do a full crank but ill figure it out. btw spark plugs were out
Old 07-28-2014, 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by uroboric
have not been able to do a full turn yet, had to leave earlier but was able to do a partial crank. i dont really have enough room to do a full crank but ill figure it out. btw spark plugs were out
if you use a ratchet, it'll be easy.

The reason for the plugs to be out is so it's easier to turn by hand feeling for rattling inside something.
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Originally Posted by Paulyy
if you use a ratchet, it'll be easy.

The reason for the plugs to be out is so it's easier to turn by hand feeling for rattling inside something.
What he said.^^
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alright, I was able to get a full 360 degree turn on the pulley..as it turned I listened for rattling and didn't hear anything. didn't hear anything really - what should be done next? reassemble everything and try to start? hesitant to do that
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Originally Posted by uroboric
alright, I was able to get a full 360 degree turn on the pulley..as it turned I listened for rattling and didn't hear anything. didn't hear anything really - what should be done next? reassemble everything and try to start? hesitant to do that
put the plugs back in then turn it full again.
it will either
a) turn over with compression
b) turn over with no compression.
Old 07-28-2014, 08:26 PM
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Or

c) turn over with no compression on 1,2, or 3 cylinders.
Old 07-28-2014, 08:39 PM
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if it turns over with plugs in that demonstrates that it is turning over with compression? what does that tell me exactly
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No, you'll know it has compression if you feel it. If you turn the motor over with plugs in and there ISN'T compression, it will be very obvious because it will turn over exactly the same as without the plugs in, in terms of torque needed to turn the ratchet on the crank. If there is compression, when you get each piston to its compression stroke with the plugs in, it will be much more difficult to turn the motor over. It MAY feel like its siezed, but you just proved it isnt so if it gets tough to turn, thats a good thing, just crank on it.
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Originally Posted by Dougs951S
No, you'll know it has compression if you feel it. If you turn the motor over with plugs in and there ISN'T compression, it will be very obvious because it will turn over exactly the same as without the plugs in, in terms of torque needed to turn the ratchet on the crank. If there is compression, when you get each piston to its compression stroke with the plugs in, it will be much more difficult to turn the motor over. It MAY feel like its siezed, but you just proved it isnt so if it gets tough to turn, thats a good thing, just crank on it.
what he said.

If it doesn't have compression it'll feel the same. And a big chance you bent valves.
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All this is really telling you is whether or not there has been a disaster, or just an oops in reassebling the stuff you messed around with. I am still guessing that you forgot to tighten or fasten something fuel rail related.
Old 07-28-2014, 11:21 PM
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put the plugs back in and while it felt the same at first, it gradually became harder to turn the crank to where i had to put a lot more effort into it. then it would be easier again, and then more difficult. is this because its moving through a different stroke

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