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Old 04-24-2011, 10:50 PM
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Default Clutch is depressed to the floor and not

The clutch on my 1987 porsche 944 turbo is stuck on the floor after depressing the clutch? When I looked at the garage floor there wasn't any clutch fluid?

Any sugestions on how we can diagnose this problem?

Thanks.
Old 04-24-2011, 11:09 PM
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Generally it's the slave cylinder, but fluid level/quality, clutch MC or the line are all possible. Change/bleed the fluid first. Proceed from there.
Old 04-25-2011, 12:06 AM
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bent clutch fork? I would isolate the system to the slave to see if the problem is in the clutch area or a problem in the master/slave....could even be air in the line that needs to be bled out. Have you replaced any parts lately?
Old 04-25-2011, 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jturbo
The clutch on my 1987 porsche 944 turbo is stuck on the floor after depressing the clutch? When I looked at the garage floor there wasn't any clutch fluid?

Any sugestions on how we can diagnose this problem?

Thanks.
98 times out of 100, that means your clutch hydraulics have failed. Check the carpet under your clutch pedal to see if it is wet. If the master goes bad, it can leak in the cabin.
Old 04-26-2011, 11:58 AM
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The clutch in my Turbo S does the samething when the car sits for a long time (2 months or more). However it always comes back with a some pumping and if I drive it more frequently it works perfect. Given that I have chose not to replace either cylinder.
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I had the exact same problem today. I also saw somme spots off fluid where I had the cat parked. I think it's the slave cylinder but i'll check that up tomorrow.
Old 04-26-2011, 04:34 PM
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If you replace the clutch master and slave make sure you have a proper 12mm flare nut wrench and a 1/4" universal joint and 13mm socket. A motive pressure bleeder will make life 100x easier when bleeding the slave.
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check jumper line
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Bend over, grab the clutch pedal and pull it up. Mine does the same thing after sitting all winter. Nothing leaking, new clutch.
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Originally Posted by Tom M'Guinn
98 times out of 100, that means your clutch hydraulics have failed. Check the carpet under your clutch pedal to see if it is wet. If the master goes bad, it can leak in the cabin.
Originally Posted by M758
The clutch in my Turbo S does the samething when the car sits for a long time (2 months or more). However it always comes back with a some pumping and if I drive it more frequently it works perfect. Given that I have chose not to replace either cylinder.
Originally Posted by alex_cristocea
I had the exact same problem today. I also saw somme spots off fluid where I had the cat parked. I think it's the slave cylinder but i'll check that up tomorrow.
The Slave cylinder is a bit of a lil bugger getting to and bleeding. I finally pulled the starter motor to get better access. Talked to Chris White and found out that the best trick is to fill the slave from the bottom with a positive pressure hydraulic pump system. The hose at the top is almost impossible to keep filled as you pump the pedal.
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Originally Posted by MM951
If you replace the clutch master and slave make sure you have a proper 12mm flare nut wrench and a 1/4" universal joint and 13mm socket. A motive pressure bleeder will make life 100x easier when bleeding the slave.
Power bleeder is almost a must especially if you replace both the master and slave cylinders. I had mine fully bled within 10 minutes
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Pretty much the same as everything stated above. Mine used to do this and usually would come back with some pumping. I ended up replacing the master cylinder at the pedal and it helped greatly. I also replaced the slave cylinder too, but that I believe was overkill.
Bleeding the clutch system on the 944 I have found to be a complete bitch. On my BMW i always was able to bleed the system through pumping the clutch and having a person open up the valve at the slave. After spending an hour doing this on the 944 it still never felt very good. Get the Motive Power bleeder to pressurize the system. The pedal will feel a lot better if you use the Motive unit.


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