A better boost controller? Please!
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A better boost controller? Please!
recieved my new greddy profec b spec 2. Read the manual - sent it back
What a total dissapointment: Setting boost through arbitrary % values set/gain/set gain/warn/limit is absurd.
"To get lowest lag set gain, but set it too high will boost spike, and the only way to set it properly is to repeatedly subject your car to the overboost/spiking ] until you get it tuned..... which if you are responsible is nearly immposible on the street.
Is there really not an EBC out there that is designed well enough to allow boost control via PSI or KPA. instead of arbitrary % values???
I hate the black **** approach - and really wanted an EBC with overboost safety: Suggestion anyone????
Thanks in advance
What a total dissapointment: Setting boost through arbitrary % values set/gain/set gain/warn/limit is absurd.
"To get lowest lag set gain, but set it too high will boost spike, and the only way to set it properly is to repeatedly subject your car to the overboost/spiking ] until you get it tuned..... which if you are responsible is nearly immposible on the street.
Is there really not an EBC out there that is designed well enough to allow boost control via PSI or KPA. instead of arbitrary % values???
I hate the black **** approach - and really wanted an EBC with overboost safety: Suggestion anyone????
Thanks in advance
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I am not intimidated by difficulty or setup.
As I understand it, in order to get the optimum settings (least lag - without boost spike) there is no way around numerous spikes. It is rediculous to invest this kind of $ into an engine/car to expose it to repeated overboost or spikes to tune it. Am I alone on that?
As I understand it, in order to get the optimum settings (least lag - without boost spike) there is no way around numerous spikes. It is rediculous to invest this kind of $ into an engine/car to expose it to repeated overboost or spikes to tune it. Am I alone on that?
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Originally Posted by 2bridges
recieved my new greddy profec b spec 2. Read the manual -sent it back. I hate the black **** approach - and really wanted an EBC with overboost safety.
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My friends are developing a boost controller that uses much more sophisticated algorithms to handle the control. They have a working model. I will be using one on my gizmachi. I am going to try and convince them to sell on rennlist when they go live.
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Anybody use this one?????
#AEM-30-4350. AEM TRU BOOST Electronic Boost Controller
BRAND NEW. In-stock and shipping now.
Features:
* Create your own gauge style! Includes black and silver bezels and pin guides, and black and white faceplates so you can personalize the look of your gauge.
* Fits a standard 2-1/16" POD!
* Complete stand-alone boost controller gauge
* On-board pressure sensor included for boost levels up to 29 PSI. (For boost levels over 29 PSI order the optional external boost sensor, good for up to 75 PSI)
* Peak boost memory
* User selectable over boost alarm with over-boost shutdown
* User scalable bar graph display
* User selectable waste gate delay for quick turbo spool
* External warning lamp driver
* No external interface required for programming
* Displays vacuum. (It is displayed as "negative PSI" without a negative sign, vacuum is not displayed as "in. Hg".)
* Easy to install harness allows for quick and easy installation
* Boost hose and fittings included for easy hookup to on-board pressure sensor
MSRP: $411.25 See below for OUR price.
#AEM-30-4350. AEM TRU BOOST Electronic Boost Controller
BRAND NEW. In-stock and shipping now.
Features:
* Create your own gauge style! Includes black and silver bezels and pin guides, and black and white faceplates so you can personalize the look of your gauge.
* Fits a standard 2-1/16" POD!
* Complete stand-alone boost controller gauge
* On-board pressure sensor included for boost levels up to 29 PSI. (For boost levels over 29 PSI order the optional external boost sensor, good for up to 75 PSI)
* Peak boost memory
* User selectable over boost alarm with over-boost shutdown
* User scalable bar graph display
* User selectable waste gate delay for quick turbo spool
* External warning lamp driver
* No external interface required for programming
* Displays vacuum. (It is displayed as "negative PSI" without a negative sign, vacuum is not displayed as "in. Hg".)
* Easy to install harness allows for quick and easy installation
* Boost hose and fittings included for easy hookup to on-board pressure sensor
MSRP: $411.25 See below for OUR price.
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Lemmee guess. . . They "outsourced" the manual-writing to India or China?
The best was the warning label on the fuse panel of my old Isuzu Impulse - it read (and I kid you not):
"Uses caution when fuse changing so as to be prevent the cause of fire".
The best was the warning label on the fuse panel of my old Isuzu Impulse - it read (and I kid you not):
"Uses caution when fuse changing so as to be prevent the cause of fire".
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SBC ID. It's the best boost controller IMO and it has "auto" gain so it's simple setup.
You don't have to have big spikes. That's why you start off low like 5 or 10 (usually it's a ratio of 0-100) and slowly work your way up. You will have to adjust your boost "ratio" as well otherwise you can get large spikes. It's not that big a deal. It's a bit more technically involving however this does not make it a "low" quality boost controller.
You don't have to have big spikes. That's why you start off low like 5 or 10 (usually it's a ratio of 0-100) and slowly work your way up. You will have to adjust your boost "ratio" as well otherwise you can get large spikes. It's not that big a deal. It's a bit more technically involving however this does not make it a "low" quality boost controller.
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The AEM Truboost is a pretty nice boost controller. There are people using them in some pretty high horsepower stuff (like 1000+hp) running tons of boost and they seem to be fairly reliable. Not sure if they have an auto gain feature like the SBC ID, but it says that it's user adjustable.
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I've got a turbosmart eboost that I have only taken out of the box and looked at. I was holding off getting some electrical problems solved before adding the eBoost. In light of the monetary relinquishment I looking at to get my car back with it's 2.8 liter upgrade I would begrudgingly part with it for $300. I was planning to put it on ebay next week.
It is an earlier version than the current one, but has all the features. It includes the solenoids and plumbing.
It is an earlier version than the current one, but has all the features. It includes the solenoids and plumbing.
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Before I bought the eBoost I called TurboSmart and asked why the boost controller used settings from 0 to 99 that didn't corestpond to actual boost pressure to set the device. IE. why can you just set it at 16psi? They said having a boost controller using the actual pressure to set with would require feedback/learning circuitry that would make the boost controller both more expensive and slower to respond to changes in pressure.
I got the eBoost because the documentation on how to set the boost pressure made the most sense to me.
I got the eBoost because the documentation on how to set the boost pressure made the most sense to me.