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Old 03-13-2017, 03:56 AM   #1
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Hey Rennlisters! First post on here but I wanted to share with you my trip to buy my second 928. I'll be driving a rental from Phoenix to Colorado Springs this Thursday and driving the 928 back. I wanted to share my experiences with you guys and also possibly get some general advice.

12 years ago I bought my first 928. It was a US '85 black/black 5-speed.
Due to a financial hole I unfortunately had to sell the car 2 years later. I loved this car and still miss it. 10 years later I am ready to buy another. I was always wanting another 85-86.5 5 speed but unfortunately I haven't found one at the right price.

October of last year I found an '84 Euro 5-speed in Colorado Springs. This isn't the 32 valve car I was looking for but the Euro power and rarity swung me

Here she is.
Owner says the timing belt has been done less than a year ago. Windows and a/c are questionable as well. Anthracite is a completely new color to me but I can dig it for a while. I love the flared fenders and I will most likely take the rest of the rub strips off at some point.

It's an 11.5 hour drive back home to sunny Phoenix. I've had some people voice their opinions on me driving it back. Some say don't and some say go for it. I do all my own work on my cars and plan on bringing a full tool box. The owner says it's running great but has been somewhat vague on its condition. Any thoughts or advice is appreciated.

I plan on documenting the trip on here! Thank you and I'll be posting later on this weekend about my trip

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Old 03-13-2017, 04:09 AM   #2
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Here are some more pictures. It looks to have some reupholstered 944 seats. I forgot to mention the odometer is inoperable at 103,000. Can someone tell me if the odometer on euros were in miles or kms? The tach is also inop. I plan on slowly fixing her myself so I am not so much worried about these things as much as the running condition of the motor/trans


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Congratulations! This was a car I stalked for the longest time, and the owner lowered the price quite a bit before I wanted to make the commitment. Bring a few fuses with you and a window relay since he says that the sunroof and windows do not work.

AC doesn't work. The tach doesn't work. However, the car starts right up and sounded amazing. I would've pulled the trigger if I didn't see the amateur job that was done in pulling out the side strips. Love the GTS flares and TT twists. I was so hoping it was mocha brown (would've bought it immediately if it was).

Best of luck with it. I vote for trailering it back. Last thing you need is for the TB to snap on the way back and the engine needed rebuilding.

BTW, he still thinks that it is an '85 (fed stickers) even though the VIN is definitely an '84.

Also, if you want to see a couple of videos on this car that were done a few years ago, PM me with your email and I will forward them to you. The car sounds great!

Awesome buy!
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Thank you for the info Hlee96! I wonder if I ordered the fuses today if they would get here in time. Glad to hear that it's running well!! I found a few videos of it from the previous owner on YouTube. Just walk arounds mostly. My email is gckrek@gmail.com, if you could email me those videos I would appreciate it. The side stripping looks that bad? I'll be removing it eventually but not immediately.

I have made plans to drive it back already so we will take it slow (for the most part) and be careful. It looks like this owner has taken decent care of it but the owners previous to him did not. I believe the car sat for some years in California but I'm not positive.
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Yeah the car was from Cali. However, it is also good since they don't corrode out there.

videos on the way.

good luck!
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order a new factory airfilter and 4 new straps for the aircleaner top,
ship them to the car install them then check the levels,
then drive home,
toss the KnN into the trash.

The Euros with MAF 2.2 are great cars,
this one looks like its going to take some TLC and you will be right at home.
Have a good ride home
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order a new factory airfilter and 4 new straps for the aircleaner top,
ship them to the car install them then check the levels,
then drive home,
toss the KnN into the trash.

The Euros with MAF 2.2 are great cars,
this one looks like its going to take some TLC and you will be right at home.
Have a good ride home
There is a set of four air filter straps on eBay right now for a very good price. Also throw in a set of belts for alternator, power steering pump etc and buy yourself a fire extinguisher just in case. Quart of oil and coolant as well but most importantly a cell phone with car charger!
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The coolant cap is suspect, does not look like stock. Hint of a possible overheating in the past? Why the lever style cap?
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order a new factory airfilter and 4 new straps for the aircleaner top,
ship them to the car install them then check the levels,
then drive home,
toss the KnN into the trash.

The Euros with MAF 2.2 are great cars,
this one looks like its going to take some TLC and you will be right at home.
Have a good ride home
Thank you I'll be sure to do that! I'm planning on putting a lot time into it
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The coolant cap is suspect, does not look like stock. Hint of a possible overheating in the past? Why the lever style cap?
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Interesting spot there. I'll have to ask the seller. Thanks
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Nice find, Dizzy. I think the seats are early 928 sport seats, not 944. Look at the back seats--if they are upholstered the same way that is what you have. Those were fitted by the factory, but adapted for the 928 from the other Porsche series. The speedo/odo looks like it is in miles, not klicks. The car is missing the Cowl Cover and cowl seal. ReDesign by FEATHER sells a nice replacement for those for $90, plus $15 for the Seal. What does the Spare Tire Cover look like? Those are also $90.

P.S. It's also missing the front side marker lite on the right fender. Might mean it is a replacement fender.
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Nice find, Dizzy. I think the seats are early 928 sport seats, not 944. Look at the back seats--if they are upholstered the same way that is what you have. Those were fitted by the factory, but adapted for the 928 from the other Porsche series. The speedo/odo looks like it is in miles, not klicks. The car is missing the Cowl Cover and cowl seal. ReDesign by FEATHER sells a nice replacement for those for $90, plus $15 for the Seal. What does the Spare Tire Cover look like? Those are also $90.

P.S. It's also missing the front side marker lite on the right fender. Might mean it is a replacement fender.
Those aren't early 928 sport seats. These are
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Matching back seat looks like this.
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Nice find, Dizzy. I think the seats are early 928 sport seats, not 944. Look at the back seats--if they are upholstered the same way that is what you have. Those were fitted by the factory, but adapted for the 928 from the other Porsche series. The speedo/odo looks like it is in miles, not klicks. The car is missing the Cowl Cover and cowl seal. ReDesign by FEATHER sells a nice replacement for those for $90, plus $15 for the Seal. What does the Spare Tire Cover look like? Those are also $90.

P.S. It's also missing the front side marker lite on the right fender. Might mean it is a replacement fender.
Jerry, thank you. I'll have to order that replacement cowl cover asap! The back seats look like normal 928 seats.

Didn't see that the marker was missing either. The owner is a Corvette guy and has been rather vague on what's there and what isn't. I know this car was in a minor accident in '94 involving a ditch, that is most likely then a replacement fender. Let's hope everything was done right.

You guys are awesome! Thank you again
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Look at the gaps around the hood and that will tell you a lot about how the front end might have been repaired. I have seen them off quite a bit which suggests that unless the hood can be realigned to even the gaps, the front frame members have been bent some and not pulled back where they belong.

You don't need the cover so much as you need the Cowl Seal. The seal keeps the engine compartment air out of the cabin.
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