i bought my 928 and have paid the pric for not heeding purchase advice
11-07-2015, 09:51 AM
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we all need to pitch in and establish a community retirement fund, or build some sort of retirement village for when we get old. We are all spending what would otherwise be smart 401K money on these cars and will someday pay the price. Hopefully, we can depend on each other for that phase of life as we do now for this phase
Having said that, these cars are exceptional machines that when running as intended, make life worth living and then some
Hang in there, eventually the spend will be just for routine maintenance, and won't be so bad. Every now and again, slip a few bucks in you 401K
Having said that, these cars are exceptional machines that when running as intended, make life worth living and then someHang in there, eventually the spend will be just for routine maintenance, and won't be so bad. Every now and again, slip a few bucks in you 401K
11-07-2015, 12:15 PM
#19
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My suggestion would be to pay a lot of attention to exactly what your mechanic is doing and ask a lot of questions. 78's are relatively easy to work on. I would clean the hell out of it, have the bottom steam cleaned, invest the time cleaning everything mechanical, stop reading the newspaper and or watching TV
and catch up on this forum. There is no mysteries to these cars as everything you are going thru has been discussed here. We are not alone.
and catch up on this forum. There is no mysteries to these cars as everything you are going thru has been discussed here. We are not alone.
11-07-2015, 12:45 PM
#20
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If your running low on $, than start spending your budget on parts and not labor, you said you worked on air cooled P cars?
Whats the difference, a 13mm is a 13mm on an Air cooled or a liquid cooled car, get out the shop manual and start turning wrenches, much more satisfying than handing someone else $ for the labor.
Whats the difference, a 13mm is a 13mm on an Air cooled or a liquid cooled car, get out the shop manual and start turning wrenches, much more satisfying than handing someone else $ for the labor.
11-07-2015, 03:54 PM
#23
Nordschleife Master
it will be ready next week,but who knows what else will go.im used to working on air cooled porsches,and decided tol et my mechanic do all of the above,now im out of money and hope i can enjoy it for a while.i am fortunate to have a good mechanic who has owned several 928s and experienced with them.
i need some support and encouragement resurrecting this car
i need some support and encouragement resurrecting this car
As you've no doubt realised, the key to buying a 928 is to get the best one you can afford, as the cheapest comes with a defecit of maintenance which will quickly outstrip the price of the better-condition cars on the market.
Hope that doesn't sound harsh - its just the reality of these cars.
OTOH they're great cars to drive, and after almost 9 years of ownership I still find myself admiring the car in reflections and turning to look at it as I walk away. Taking one for a drive in remote areas with twisty roads is sublime, and even daily driving one in heavy rush hour traffic puts a smile on my face
If you're used to working on air-cooled Porsches, then grab a copy of the workshop manuals and start reading, these cars aren't mechanically complex, and pick up some wrenches
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11-07-2015, 04:11 PM
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i bought a79 928 5speed,it started,but clutch master was gone,couldnt drive it,no real records,had been in garage for about 5 years.body and interior are excellent.owner told me that he thought clutch and timing belt had been done.believe it or not i bought it.had it towed to my mechanic.he fixed clutch slave ,tells me brake master is gone as well as axle boots.then a oil leak happens when car is first started ,stops when its warm.he tells me probably cam cover seal.issue.it does start and runs well,passed smog.so after throwing more money at him he tells me its running hot,clutch fan bad and expansion tank leaking.he also fixed window switch.so now waiting for cam cover seals as well as throwing in a new timing belt.i think water pump is good.im having a heart attack,still love car,but i sure did this wrong.
i must say that when i drove it around the block it did make me smile.
it will be ready next week,but who knows what else will go.im used to working on air cooled porsches,and decided tol et my mechanic do all of the above,now im out of money and hope i can enjoy it for a while.i am fortunate to have a good mechanic who has owned several 928s and experienced with them.
i need some support and encouragement resurrecting this car
i must say that when i drove it around the block it did make me smile.
it will be ready next week,but who knows what else will go.im used to working on air cooled porsches,and decided tol et my mechanic do all of the above,now im out of money and hope i can enjoy it for a while.i am fortunate to have a good mechanic who has owned several 928s and experienced with them.
i need some support and encouragement resurrecting this car
And being that this car was one of the most expensive production cars built, at the time it was made, the costs of the replacement pieces are going to be equally expensive.
And the skills required to perform these repairs are rare and thus more expensive than Sum Ting Wong working on a Toyota.
I tell everyone and anyone the same exact thing....plan on spending a minimum of 10K to bring a really good example up to reliable status. Some require a much larger investment, but rarely is the number lower. And the older the car, the more miles on it, the longer it sat, the more money it will require.
If you are worried about your current costs, wait until the 38 year old transmission needs to be rebuilt or the 38 year old head gaskets that have been soaking in acidic coolant fail.
I've got to go back and find out who said "Almost anyone can afford a new car. Very few can afford an old car" and give them credit for that statement.
Pure genius insight, there!
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Have fun with your 928's people!
greg brown
714 879 9072
GregBBRD@aol.com
Semi-retired, as of Feb 1, 2023.
The days of free technical advice are over.
Free consultations will no longer be available.
Will still be in the shop, isolated and exclusively working on project cars, developmental work and products, engines and transmissions.
Have fun with your 928's people!
11-07-2015, 06:29 PM
#25
Burning Brakes
I'm with Dan. Mechanicals may be the best thing to fix and cheapest in long run. Paint is 10k and interior runs 7k. Do your own work with 10k in parts and you may come out ahead. I'm not sure I have anything that has perfect interior/exterior....wish I did.
11-07-2015, 08:30 PM
#26
I'm just adjusting to my purchase.i own a 912e and a 914.both theses cars are easy to work on.the 928 is a different thing all together .i think I actually did ok,as all the electrics work well,engine is strong,trans shifts well.just doing the catch up on parts that rotted out.i am aware I may need to do head gasket in the future.
Car came with the shop manuals and new tires.
Car came with the shop manuals and new tires.
11-07-2015, 08:51 PM
#27
From someone who has pretty much touched every system on my now sold 82 5 speed. Take it one system at a time. Prioritize and tackle the most serious issues first. Prioritize spending too, unless you have unlimited car funds.
No matter if you do every minute of labor, it will cost you a bundle. It just depends on how big a bundle and how nice you wish to make your car.
You may as well reconcile the fact that you will not make any money on your car if you sink a bunch into it and then at some point, wish to sell it. You will be lucky if you break even.
Greg is absolutely right with his comments and I gave the same warning to the guy who purchased my 928. Just because everything works now and most everything has been rebuilt, replaced, refurbed, etc, etc. doesn't mean that something costly won't fail 30 days after the car rolls off the car carrier.
Unless you just must have a totally original car, consider deleting the viscous fan and installing one of the many electric puller fans available. The cost is close to a rebuilt viscous fan and the performance is at least twice as good. No more worries about overheating in traffic with the AC running and there is no need for the aux fan for AC use.
Good luck
No matter if you do every minute of labor, it will cost you a bundle. It just depends on how big a bundle and how nice you wish to make your car.
You may as well reconcile the fact that you will not make any money on your car if you sink a bunch into it and then at some point, wish to sell it. You will be lucky if you break even.
Greg is absolutely right with his comments and I gave the same warning to the guy who purchased my 928. Just because everything works now and most everything has been rebuilt, replaced, refurbed, etc, etc. doesn't mean that something costly won't fail 30 days after the car rolls off the car carrier.
Unless you just must have a totally original car, consider deleting the viscous fan and installing one of the many electric puller fans available. The cost is close to a rebuilt viscous fan and the performance is at least twice as good. No more worries about overheating in traffic with the AC running and there is no need for the aux fan for AC use.
Good luck
11-07-2015, 09:05 PM
#28
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Sounds so familiar I have been working on mine for 6 months , My gauges are taking turns working and then not working but the sound of this beast when it starts up makes my blood pressure rise..
11-07-2015, 11:38 PM
#29
I bought my first 928 14 months ago. When you get it going it will be the first Porsche you've owned that is as great for Interstate cruising as for winding two lanes. You will love it.
r
Warning based on my 1981, a lot of your rubber parts will likely need replacing in the near future.
Don't despair. Just take it at the speed your budget can handle. You will love the final result.
Brad
r
Warning based on my 1981, a lot of your rubber parts will likely need replacing in the near future.
Don't despair. Just take it at the speed your budget can handle. You will love the final result.
Brad
11-08-2015, 12:55 AM
#30
Drifting
Those are exactly the same issues that came up with mine during my first couple of years. It's a 37 year old car, they should be expected. Steering rack was the only thing you didn't mention. And brake booster. I love my car. It will out live me, catastrophic incidents aside.