Middle-aged Wrench Turner, New to 928, New to the Forum
#17
Nordschleife Master
Well, I definitely feel like I found the right place here. This was the most active forum I found.
Strikemaster - I don't believe my 83 is a Euro. The 79 is, though. There are some photos linked in a comment above. Neither one of them are much to look at at this point. Here are the vins:
The weather didn't let me do any cleaning of the ground points yesterday and today's been occupied with various other things... It's gonna be a slow process.
Strikemaster - I don't believe my 83 is a Euro. The 79 is, though. There are some photos linked in a comment above. Neither one of them are much to look at at this point. Here are the vins:
- 83 - WP0JB0923DS861119
- 79 - 9288102469
The weather didn't let me do any cleaning of the ground points yesterday and today's been occupied with various other things... It's gonna be a slow process.
Your '79 is not a 79. Its a '78 - '79 VIN would begin with 9289xxx. In fact its a european car from late in the first year of production. 92881xxxxx denotes RoW delivery.. US model would be 92882xxxxx. Is it a manual?
How different is the condition of each car? If they're both in need of a repaint, I'd consider fixing up the '78 instead.. it has greater potential for an eventual break-even on value once running, especially if its a 5-speed.
Regardless, your two cars aren't well suited to being parts cars for each other.. different brakes, engines, heads, injection systems, etc. etc.
You can find the workshop manuals at: http://www.ligeti.com/928/
The full DVD set mentioned above has more additional documents and system-specific guides, but the full manuals will get you a long way in the mean time.
#18
8th Gear
Thread Starter
Tell us more about the "parts car"... its more interesting because...
Your '79 is not a 79. Its a '78 - '79 VIN would begin with 9289xxx. In fact its a european car from late in the first year of production. 92881xxxxx denotes RoW delivery.. US model would be 92882xxxxx. Is it a manual?
How different is the condition of each car?
Your '79 is not a 79. Its a '78 - '79 VIN would begin with 9289xxx. In fact its a european car from late in the first year of production. 92881xxxxx denotes RoW delivery.. US model would be 92882xxxxx. Is it a manual?
How different is the condition of each car?
Part of me would like to restore the 79/8 instead of the 83, but there is a pretty drastic difference between the condition of the two. The bodies of both are in fair condition, no major dents, and all of the glass is intact.
79/8 is missing many mechanical components (heads, starter, fuel tank...) and all that remains of the interior are the front seats. It is a 5 speed manual, though.
83 is a complete car, but there are many, many gremlins to exterminate, the seats need to be recovered, and all of the interior leather needs to be replaced - dash to hatchback. It is an automatic.
#20
Nordschleife Master
Maybe there was an error along the way, because the title says it is a '79. Interesting...
79/8 is missing many mechanical components (heads, starter, fuel tank...) and all that remains of the interior are the front seats. It is a 5 speed manual, though.
83 is a complete car, but there are many, many gremlins to exterminate, the seats need to be recovered, and all of the interior leather needs to be replaced - dash to hatchback. It is an automatic.
79/8 is missing many mechanical components (heads, starter, fuel tank...) and all that remains of the interior are the front seats. It is a 5 speed manual, though.
83 is a complete car, but there are many, many gremlins to exterminate, the seats need to be recovered, and all of the interior leather needs to be replaced - dash to hatchback. It is an automatic.
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...in-thread.html
Sounds like you're working on the right car - the 78 sounds pretty far gone.
On the other hand, it also sounds like you still have a numbers-matching '78 5-speed (if the block in the engine bay of it is the original M28.01 type for '78/79 5-speed), so its worth blowing out the cylinders/rings with air/vacuum, sticking some oil in the bores and turning it over by hand before covering with a plastic sheet. If 928 prices ever go the way of 911 prices, it'll be worth it to someone as a restoration project.
The good news is you're in the best place in the world to get trouble-shooting assistance and help with your 83. A digital camera will go a long way here too both to keep us entertained, and to ask "is this right?" type questions.
Welcome to the shark tank!
#21
Rennlist Member
Alan is The Man around here when it comes to 928 electricity, but that said, '83s - US, auto, manual, ROW - had even him confused.
As for the difference? I presume you've looked at the pasta bowl on the back of the panel - your guess is as good as mine. The Morehouse CD includes the Porsche Model Year Service Tecknik books that cover the running changes in each model year, so maybe there.
Last edited by Fogey1; 08-03-2015 at 04:02 PM.
#24
Rennlist Member
#25
Race Car
Shame on the 78 5-speed I have the same car, I used the L-jet from an 82 and converted it, runs great. He could swap some parts with min costs to get it running. The 78 euro I have just feels different maybe the gearing but car if fun to drive.