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Old 06-26-2015, 01:50 PM
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Barring any unforeseen circumstances I'm in.
Excellent, I will add you to the list.!!
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You might be surprised. Track rentals are quite pricey. Can an individual even rent that space?
Depends on the depth of said individual's pocket....
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not to be argumentative but these guys found some nice road and there are plenty more video's like it from all over the system, I thought I had posted this before, anyway

Don't worry about roads to drive on at unrestricted speeds, I will guarantee you will have more than enough opportunities to do that. It will depend on timing and the route we choose to drive.

There are lots of highways with unrestricted limits in off peak hours all over the country.

But Vilhuer is correct about the big cities, very difficult during business hours. However, we can plan a good route to make the best of the trip!!

Also, no trucks on the autobahn from 10pm Friday to 10pm Sunday, however there is lots of traffic when school is closed and the Scandinavians and Dutch guys decide to go camping in Croatia and use Germany as the route over Italy.....

But, we can plan ahead...
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Originally Posted by 69gaugeman
You might be surprised. Track rentals are quite pricey. Can an individual even rent that space?
It really depends on how many people are serious about taking their car on this adventure. Doing it in Texas will greatly increase the number of people that can attend which brings the per car cost down.

Not to mention if you are going for real performance comparison, a controlled environment will yield better results.

As for who can rent it? If you've got enough money, I'm sure anything is possible.

That was just one facility in the US that came to mind, plenty more like seldom used and retired airfields that are already rented by private individuals for car events.
Ford, GM, Nissan.....also have similar proving grounds in the US.

Friend of mine rents Road America 1-2 times per year for his event, so that's a backup option.
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You certainly don't need to go to Germany. I lived 4 years in Montana. I drove a lot through the Dakotas, and Wyoming. Also in Northern Idaho. Yes there are speed limits, but these places are in fact empty. Go there, and drive as fast as you want to, and see what your car will do. Nobody will bother you so long as you are away from the population centers (which that itself is not much - the largest city in MT has less than 110K people; not many people or cities at all). There are some great drives through these places and you can really enjoy your cars the way they were meant to be driven.
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You certainly don't need to go to Germany. I lived 4 years in Montana. I drove a lot through the Dakotas, and Wyoming. Also in Northern Idaho. Yes there are speed limits, but these places are in fact empty. Go there, and drive as fast as you want to, and see what your car will do. Nobody will bother you so long as you are away from the population centers (which that itself is not much - the largest city in MT has less than 110K people; not many people or cities at all). There are some great drives through these places and you can really enjoy your cars the way they were meant to be driven.
You will miss the cultural part. And the occasional move over flash of something faster going past at 180+ mph. No place in North America can compare to the German experience.

In addition, on any closed track, save the Ring, you will never be able to keep up the speed for any distance when compared to the autobahn. None.... That's why religious car people pilgrimage to the Ring.

In actuality, you can go even faster for longer on the regular autobahn... (As long as the tires are rated to equal or exceed the limits of the car.)
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I got a speeding ticket in MT...in my parents' car. Still sore about that :-|

Originally Posted by linderpat
You certainly don't need to go to Germany. I lived 4 years in Montana. I drove a lot through the Dakotas, and Wyoming. Also in Northern Idaho. Yes there are speed limits, but these places are in fact empty. Go there, and drive as fast as you want to, and see what your car will do. Nobody will bother you so long as you are away from the population centers (which that itself is not much - the largest city in MT has less than 110K people; not many people or cities at all). There are some great drives through these places and you can really enjoy your cars the way they were meant to be driven.
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Originally Posted by blau928
You will miss the cultural part. And the occasional move over flash of something faster going past at 180+ mph. No place in North America can compare to the German experience.

In addition, on any closed track, save the Ring, you will never be able to keep up the speed for any distance when compared to the autobahn. None.... That's why religious car people pilgrimage to the Ring.

In actuality, you can go even faster for longer on the regular autobahn... (As long as the tires are rated to equal or exceed the limits of the car.)
I agree with the statement about the cultural part, but not as to distance high speed driving. I once drove 6 hours at about 120 constant mph, up through NE MT across ND. you truly can drive fast and for extended periods of time out there. I don't see how you could do that on the Autobahn, too many cities tucked in between.
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I agree with the statement about the cultural part, but not as to distance high speed driving. I once drove 6 hours at about 120 constant mph, up through NE MT across ND. you truly can drive fast and for extended periods of time out there. I don't see how you could do that on the Autobahn, too many cities tucked in between.
I'm thinking of keeping the speeding fully legal. I have great disdain in arranging attorneys to bailout however many people decide to go on the trip.

It is also no fun to drive 120+ on a road system engineered for 70 mph. The turns are not banked and the road depth is not as prepared in the usa as it does not need to be.

As much as I am a speed nut, safety first....

You also cannot drive for a continuous 6 hours at 120mph in a 928, you will run out of fuel...... Probably more than 3 times at the 720 miles /1150km distance at the 4k+ rpm.

However, it is possible to average 120mph on a 6 hour trip, which is an entirely different thing, and is absolutely possible to do in Germany even with all the cities, as they usually have ring roads that are unrestricted after business hours.

In any event, if you're not interested in such a trip, please do not be offended, different strokes for different folks..

However, if still doubtful, come on the trip and see for yourself!
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Originally Posted by blau928
In addition, on any closed track, save the Ring, you will never be able to keep up the speed for any distance when compared to the autobahn. None.... That's why religious car people pilgrimage to the Ring.
Of which 'Ring' do you write? Do you mean the Nürburgring?
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Of which 'Ring' do you write? Do you mean the Nürburgring?
Yes that Ring... The Nordschleife circuit part.. The backyarded/modified kit experts and their 928 modified hot rods can try to crack the sub 7 minute time while we all watch..!

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And on the Nürburgring one can sustain high speed minutes at a time?
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Originally Posted by blau928
However, if still doubtful, come on the trip and see for yourself!
It would be fun indeed
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This thread is beginning to go the way the last one went, as so many do, the point of driving on the autobahn is going as fast as one wants looking at beautiful scenery in 100% serenity. This week i was going as fast as the alleged top speed of a GTS, but not without concern. Who gives a ***** about a track, misses the whole point. The autobahn is unique in the world, real freedom.

scenery and feel and no worries, it is a bucket list worthy goal

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Originally Posted by worf928
And on the Nürburgring one can sustain high speed minutes at a time?
Define "high" - now has a speed limit:

http://blog.caranddriver.com/nurburg...tion-car-king/


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