MainePorsche

I've attempted to search for part# for a MY 87 ROW foglight relay XIII. Was only able to find a PET for Great Britain where the part numbers are the same - 928 615 117 02 as the North American relay.
Is Great Britain not ROWish relative to North America ?
Can anyone confirm, or know how to ?

MainePorsche

Guys,
Initially I thought the foglight relay part numbers were listed as possibly being interchangeable on the PET from Great Britain (ROW). When I searched under PN 141 951 253 B, I find it is a '53' relay.
Is this correct ?
Does the designation M193 in the Model column have some significance I am reading over ?

JHowell37

I just tested this on my '85. Throw in the 53 Relay. The fog lights won't turn off when the high beams are turned on, but otherwise, it works as it should.

MainePorsche

Found this from an old Rob Edwards post.
M193 means version for Japan with the 928 615 117 02 foglight relay.
Otherwise the GB cars (I am assuming a GB car would be ROW) has a '53' relay. If so this would be the ROW replacement relay for MY 87-91 for the high beam/foglight issue.
Can this be confirmed for the tribe.



Code:
# in PET Code Description
4264 M018 Sports Steering Wheel with Elevated Hub -30mm
1165 M020 Speedometer with Two Scales - MPH-KM/H
2 M024 Version for Greece
643 M026 With Activated Charcoal Canister
1660 M027 Version for California
73 M034 Version for Italy
MO48 ?
7399 M058 Impact Absorbers - Front and Rear
1057 M061 Version for Great Britain
53 M062 Version for Sweden
12 M063 Version for Luxemburg
294 M113 Version for Canada
4 M114 Version for Taiwan
1027 M115 ?
181 M119 Version for Spain
495 M124 Version for France
2488 M126 Control and Indicators in French Lettering
20 M127 Control and Indicators in Schwedisch Lettering
1176 M130 Control and Indicators in English Lettering
10854 M139 Seat Heating System, Left Seat
326 M150 Without Catalyst
44 M151 Engine with deferring Parts - Switzerland, Sweden, Australia
278 M154 Control unit for improved emissions
13989 M158 Radio, Blaupunkt Rmonterey (1986) or Reno SQR 46 (1987)
359 M167 Bridgestone Tires
3007 M185 Safety Belts 2-Point, Rear Automatic
3375 M190 Increased Side Door Strength (USA, Canada, Australia
267 M193 Version for Japan
41 M195 Prepared for Cellular - Telephone System
4425 M197 Stronger Battery
227 M208 Trailer Coupling
102 M215 Version for Saudi Arabia

JHowell37

I just plugged a "53" relay into the fog light socket. It works on the '85. Fog lights will remain on when the high beams are on, but otherwise it's fine.

MainePorsche

Well there we go.
Confirmation from you is good enough for me.

JHowell37

BTW, I had ordered a fog light relay for my '85 last year and never got around to putting it in. FWIW, My car had the original relay which I can't recall the P/N. The one Roger sent me was P/N 928 615 117 02. The only difference between the two is the older relay is a bit larger and has an extra terminal (86b) in the center. The new relay performed the same as the original relay in the car. When I installed the "53" as I said before, the only issue is the foglights don't shut off when the high beams are on. I don't think most of us are going to take issue with that.

MainePorsche

You'd be correct.
If I go with the Cree's for the headlights, I just don't want my high beams on when I have my fog button pressed. Alan stated a ROW relay would solve that. Good to know a 53 and not a $$ relay is the fix.

Koenig-Specials 928

Thanks Dave.
I've ordered one too.

davek9

Thank you!!!
Will try it this afternoon, also that is the same part number I found for the stock 85/86.

Note to others: the Fog Light relay is year dependent, please read Alan's comments for the correct fix for the issue per MY.

Thanks all,

Dave

Bizman928

Don - well spotted! These bulbs have the LED Chips positioned on either side so don't give the dip beam direction correctly hence the low brightness comments you see on Amazon for these bulbs. They are also in a plastic housing so the heat cooling efficient is much lower than any version with a metal housing so when they get hot they start to switch down the w/lumen ratio and reduce brightness.

The other problem with the position of the bulbs is they only reach 270° max unlike the 360° that they claim in the advert! This gives dark dead spots on the road ahead.
We tested these bulbs early on and were not happy to sell them! They are in no way comparable to the correctly positioned CREE LED bulbs we sell.

There are 2 new types of CREE LED bulbs coming out so the price of these older problematic units will keep coming down on eBay & Amazon as companies off-load them.
We will keep the list updated with the new products

Bizman928

Here's a video of how easy it is to fit & Upgrade your 928 to LED Headlights.

Video from the Tilford Barley Mow meet 2015 on 2 customers 928's being fitted with the new Woodypeck G5 CREE LED Headlight bulbs.
4000 Lumen. 80 watt. 6000 Kelvin Super Bright White

Bizman928

For those that don't want to change/upgrade to the Euro H4 Headlights
We now have stock of the 9004 LED bulbs for the USA market. As requested. Ready to ship to the USA.

These are a little lower power than the H4 LED bulbs to try to cater for the H5 lenses and to reduce the chance of glare and dazzling oncoming traffic.

30 watts equivalent power
3000 Lumens
2.45 Amps current draw

http://woodypeck.com/?product=9004-c...-pair-of-bulbs

Bizman928

On of our customers purchased our 2S LED H4 bulb upgrade some weeks ago in readiness for their trip across Europe - France, Italy & the Alps then through Switzerland then home to the UK. They didn't want to make the trip on poor lights in their VW T4 Van So they purchased our LED bulbs.

At the weekend I asked for some photos for our website - the customer was over the moon at how well he could see the road with our lights during their Euro trip and especially up through the Alps. So he said he would take some photos at the weekend and maybe a video - Well what can I say - a happy customer is always the best recommendation - take a look at what he posted up to YouTube!


Great video - what a great customer - Nice LED lights on the road video!

SMTCapeCod

Good to see you back on the forum! Please recall our email exchange regarding the bulb upgrade, standing by!