I have an opportunity to buy 1987 CS
11-18-2014, 05:53 PM
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yep...and the door interior part and the rear bumper cover seems to have some red showing through..
I'm curious as to how cheap this is....if you don't...maybe I will
. Get it over here and sit on it until you can rebuild to its former glory..
I'm curious as to how cheap this is....if you don't...maybe I will
. Get it over here and sit on it until you can rebuild to its former glory..
11-18-2014, 06:56 PM
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Are the side mirrors factory? I have never seen that type of mirror on any 928? What is the last picture of? Was someone trying to supercharge it? It seems that way with the red intake hose and what looks like a supercharger.
11-18-2014, 10:06 PM
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Club Sport only had driver's side mirror.
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Does it have the "Do It Yourself" manual transmission, or the superior "Fully Equipped by Porsche" Automatic Transmission?
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928 Owners are ".....a secret sect of quietly assured Porsche pragmatists who in near anonymity appreciate the prodigious, easy going prowess of the 928."
Does it have the "Do It Yourself" manual transmission, or the superior "Fully Equipped by Porsche" Automatic Transmission?
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11-19-2014, 12:41 AM
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So did the Club Sports come with phone dial wheels..?
The seats look amazingly good, in light of the overall condition.
(at least what little you can see of them appears in good shape).
I have one of the rare CS wing nuts I will donate to the cause .
But seriously though Kev, I say go for it. We'll come over and help.
Have you checked into the costs and logistics of getting it over here?
I have a good tow vehicle and access to a nice car hauler trailer.
If you can get it to the port of Savannah, we could road trip to get it.
The term "project" is a bit of an understatement for this one.
But "rarity" is a pretty exciting thing...
The seats look amazingly good, in light of the overall condition.
(at least what little you can see of them appears in good shape).
I have one of the rare CS wing nuts I will donate to the cause
.But seriously though Kev, I say go for it. We'll come over and help.
Have you checked into the costs and logistics of getting it over here?
I have a good tow vehicle and access to a nice car hauler trailer.
If you can get it to the port of Savannah, we could road trip to get it.
The term "project" is a bit of an understatement for this one.
But "rarity" is a pretty exciting thing...
11-19-2014, 12:49 AM
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Getting the car into the USA as it is older than 25 years is a walk in the park and circa $3k. The big problem is the car is a none runner and not so easy to drive into a container or RoRo on to a ship.
11-19-2014, 01:39 AM
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Call me Robbyanna, and I wouldn't try to bite off that project, but OTOH if the VIN checks out, and the M28.41SP engine is there, and the G28.55 trans is there, and the CS-specifc LH brain is there (where else in the world are you going to get THAT sticker....) I would say that hulk is worth way more than zero. $5K of bodywork, $10K of paint, $20K of drivetrain work, $10K of interior re-work, plus the cost of purchase and intercontinental transport, You might break even.. 
RE: the list of CS-specific parts, here's the culled list of everything from PET
RE: the list of CS-specific parts, here's the culled list of everything from PET
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M 637 928 701 287 04 "sticker tyre pressure" M 637 928 111 094 04 intermediate silencer M 637 928 111 093 04 intermediate silencer M 637/639 928 111 271 03 dual outlet muffler tip M 637 928 343 511 09 "front wheel spring 1 set" "M 637 M 639" 928 424 067 50 gearshift lever M 637/M 639 928 503 061 19 Rolled lip rear quarter panels M 637/M 639 928 503 062 19 Rolled lip rear quarter panels M 637/M 639 928 503 011 11 Rolled lip front fenders M 637/M 639 928 503 012 11 Rolled lip front fenders M 637 928 512 005 06 Rear hatch M 637 928 551 089 07 handbrake cover without pull for rear hatch M 637 928 551 505 07 Amp and fan amp passenger side cover without pull for rear hatch M 637 E 928 559 339 00 Clubsport logo M 637 928 559 339 01 Clubsport logo M 639 928 618 124 22 EZK brain M 637/639 > 928 618 123 14 LH brain M 637 928 618 124 16 EZK brain M 637 928 618 124 QX EZK brain M 637 928 618 123 12 control unit M 637 928 603 011 01 alternator M 637 928 603 035 02 ventilation element M 637 928 603 135 04 alternator shroud M 637 U 928 612 865 04 alternator shroud grommet for FOE harness M 637 928 612 865 06 alternator shroud grommet for FOE harness M 637 999 611 053 20 1976 to 1985 924 50 Ah battery M 637 911 611 209 00 battery hold-down bracket M 637 N 014 725 2 "pan-head screw M 8 X 25" M 637 N 011 525 13 washer M 637 928 612 004 38 rear body harness '88 only M 637 928 641 609 10 A/C and door lock console panel, without A/C M 637 928 641 609 13 A/C and door lock console panel, without A/C
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11-19-2014, 04:38 AM
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Kevin, please send me an email and I will tell you what I know about this car.
By the way, they are no production 1987 CS.
So, this car is not a production CS. But it's one of the three prototypes I have identified so far.
I don't count the four cars made for the factory pilots. I think they are pre-production cars.
By the way, they are no production 1987 CS.
So, this car is not a production CS. But it's one of the three prototypes I have identified so far.
I don't count the four cars made for the factory pilots. I think they are pre-production cars.
11-19-2014, 04:43 AM
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And it was sold (I don't know the real price paid, and will not ask the new owner).
Collectors seem to gain interest on the CS recently.
Most of them are now into very nice collections.
11-19-2014, 04:56 AM
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So..what parts are unique in the CS...
engine block
A/C unit (smaller)
interior had cloth stripes (mostly)
transmission was a G28/55
rims were CS 8" and 9"
sticker on the fenders
no sunroof
most of the other stuff was shared with the S4/GTs?
I would say if the block and trans are useable (original) you could bring it back to near original condition with other parts and still call it a CS (esp if the VIN is a CS vin)...
engine block
A/C unit (smaller)
interior had cloth stripes (mostly)
transmission was a G28/55
rims were CS 8" and 9"
sticker on the fenders
no sunroof
most of the other stuff was shared with the S4/GTs?
I would say if the block and trans are useable (original) you could bring it back to near original condition with other parts and still call it a CS (esp if the VIN is a CS vin)...
The ECU's had a different part number, but are actually functionally the same, with the only difference being the ECU chips, which can be copied to give the same performance, and the odds of finding a correct ECU are slim to none, unless Porsche still has new ones and don't just show a supersede in their database.
Everything else missing in the pics can be lifted from S4's of various years, except the CS sticker, which is NLA. (e.g. AC compressor from a 90-95 car, factory hand-ported intake/heads/cams from an 89GT or SE)
Kevin - before considering buying, you need to get a photos of the engine block number and the transmission numbers.
Looks like it might be the Albrex supercharger kit which was the original 928 boost kit?
edit: ah, I see Samuel has posted above.. listen to him
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11-19-2014, 05:01 AM
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So..what parts are unique in the CS...
engine block
A/C unit (smaller)
interior had cloth stripes (mostly)
transmission was a G28/55
rims were CS 8" and 9"
sticker on the fenders
no sunroof
most of the other stuff was shared with the S4/GTs?
I would say if the block and trans are useable (original) you could bring it back to near original condition with other parts and still call it a CS (esp if the VIN is a CS vin)...
engine block
A/C unit (smaller)
interior had cloth stripes (mostly)
transmission was a G28/55
rims were CS 8" and 9"
sticker on the fenders
no sunroof
most of the other stuff was shared with the S4/GTs?
I would say if the block and trans are useable (original) you could bring it back to near original condition with other parts and still call it a CS (esp if the VIN is a CS vin)...
engine block: Correct "SP" stamp on the block.
A/C unit (smaller): To check
interior had cloth stripes (mostly): Correct
transmission was a G28/55: Not this one. The G28/55 was officially released with production cars. This one has a G28/12, certainly modified.
rims were CS 8" and 9": Lost on this car, but with a set from a US 928 GT, you are right. You need a set of 17mm from a 944 Turbo on the rear track also.
sticker on the fenders: Not on a prototype...even if I have seen one with a black sticker, certainly added later.
no sunroof: Of course. No CS was delivered with one.
most of the other stuff was shared with the S4/GTs?: Correct, except the seats.
This is not a CS VIN, as only the production 1988 cars have specific VIN ranges (one for the 2 US cars and one for the 10 RoW cars).
1989 CS are mixed with regular S4.
1987 prototypes and pre-production are mixed with regular S4 also.
You can note this car had a rear wiper, which is not a part of the "regular" CS equipment. But I know a red 1989 CS with it.
Some interesting items:
CS Rear silencer.
Lightweight sport seats without any electrical adjustment. CS specificic!
No cassette box
Shorter gearbox level
During its life, someone add a third break light and an Albrex. This is a kind of mix between a regular compressor and a turbo.
http://www.albrex.com
As I told you, no CS was ever delivered with a sunroof. That makes the following car more than suspicious to me:
http://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/...28/1988/149779
I think this car (wp0zzz92zjs845068) is a fake.