1 problem passing speed
10-30-2014, 07:26 AM
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1 problem passing speed
hello,
I call this my Philippe of France and houseowner a 928 s4 1990 .
I allows you to solicit because I can not start in 1st gear .
I have all tried emptying speed box , replacing various valves, control cables , shunt kindow ...
But nothing, have you any ideas?
kind regards .
I call this my Philippe of France and houseowner a 928 s4 1990 .
I allows you to solicit because I can not start in 1st gear .
I have all tried emptying speed box , replacing various valves, control cables , shunt kindow ...
But nothing, have you any ideas?
kind regards .
10-30-2014, 11:54 AM
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I believe you are saying, your automatic will not go into first gear with the gear selector. You said you checked control cables, but I only know to check for slack at the transmission. The cable that attaches to the "selector arm" in the picture. There is an adjustment for that cable. Or the black switch located to the right of the selector arm may need to be replaced.
Your title says something about "passing" this would indicate the kickdown relay.
I would look in the relay panel with the XVII relay (kickdown relay). It is a one of a kind, that is, there isn't another one in there you can substitute.
Maybe Alan can help, I believe you could jumper (connecting pin 87 to 30) this one to see if the relay is functioning. Or you could pay $82 for a new relay and replace that relay.
http://www.tooloutfitters.com/relay-...ay-tester.html
has a product called Relay Buddy, that checks relays. Handy to have.
I hope this helps, more details are needed in your description.
Your title says something about "passing" this would indicate the kickdown relay.
I would look in the relay panel with the XVII relay (kickdown relay). It is a one of a kind, that is, there isn't another one in there you can substitute.
Maybe Alan can help, I believe you could jumper (connecting pin 87 to 30) this one to see if the relay is functioning. Or you could pay $82 for a new relay and replace that relay.
http://www.tooloutfitters.com/relay-...ay-tester.html
has a product called Relay Buddy, that checks relays. Handy to have.
I hope this helps, more details are needed in your description.
10-30-2014, 03:10 PM
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10-31-2014, 04:17 AM
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Désolé pour la traduction automatique !!!
Mais merci de vos réponses.
Ma voiture est une 928 s4 de 1990 automatique.
Je l'ai depuis 2 ans, j'ai fait beaucoup de travaux de remise en état, mais je n'ai jamais arrivé à la faire démarrer en 1 er vitesse.
J'ai essayé de tendre et détendre le câble d'accélérateur qui va à la boite de vitesse,
vidangé la boite de vitesse, remplacé les soupapes et billes dans la boite de vitesse.
shunté l'interrupteur kindow
Mais rien à faire !!!
si vous avez une idée, ça serai cool
Mais merci de vos réponses.
Ma voiture est une 928 s4 de 1990 automatique.
Je l'ai depuis 2 ans, j'ai fait beaucoup de travaux de remise en état, mais je n'ai jamais arrivé à la faire démarrer en 1 er vitesse.
J'ai essayé de tendre et détendre le câble d'accélérateur qui va à la boite de vitesse,
vidangé la boite de vitesse, remplacé les soupapes et billes dans la boite de vitesse.
shunté l'interrupteur kindow
Mais rien à faire !!!
si vous avez une idée, ça serai cool
10-31-2014, 04:20 AM
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I believe you are saying, your automatic will not go into first gear with the gear selector. You said you checked control cables, but I only know to check for slack at the transmission. The cable that attaches to the "selector arm" in the picture. There is an adjustment for that cable. Or the black switch located to the right of the selector arm may need to be replaced.
Your title says something about "passing" this would indicate the kickdown relay.
I would look in the relay panel with the XVII relay (kickdown relay). It is a one of a kind, that is, there isn't another one in there you can substitute.
Maybe Alan can help, I believe you could jumper (connecting pin 87 to 30) this one to see if the relay is functioning. Or you could pay $82 for a new relay and replace that relay.
http://www.tooloutfitters.com/relay-...ay-tester.html
has a product called Relay Buddy, that checks relays. Handy to have.
I hope this helps, more details are needed in your description.
Your title says something about "passing" this would indicate the kickdown relay.
I would look in the relay panel with the XVII relay (kickdown relay). It is a one of a kind, that is, there isn't another one in there you can substitute.
Maybe Alan can help, I believe you could jumper (connecting pin 87 to 30) this one to see if the relay is functioning. Or you could pay $82 for a new relay and replace that relay.
http://www.tooloutfitters.com/relay-...ay-tester.html
has a product called Relay Buddy, that checks relays. Handy to have.
I hope this helps, more details are needed in your description.
10-31-2014, 05:12 AM
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Bonne nuit, Phillipe,
My French is no better than your English but here are three posts that may help.
Mon Francais n'est pas meilleur de votre Anglais mais ici son tres posts(?) que may(?) vous aidez.
Bienvenue et bonne chance,
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...automatic+gear
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...automatic+gear
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...automatic+gear
Je trouvais mas. Here are two more posts with pictures and two technical pages from good websites.
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...l#post11388452
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...ml#post9364712
May be a useful picture, et Bertrand can probably parlee vous your lingo at least as well as most of us can talk to Brits.
http://members.rennlist.com/v1uhoh/kickdown.htm
http://jenniskens.livedsl.nl/Technic...T_TransAut.htm
Last but not least, I presume you know
http://www.clubporsche928.fr/
Will Hunt
'83S 5-spd. #62013
A true patriot is a lover of his country who rebukes and does not excuse its sins.
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The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them.
Patrick Henry
It was our own moral failure and not any accident of chance, that while preserving the appearance of the Republic we lost its reality.
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My French is no better than your English but here are three posts that may help.
Mon Francais n'est pas meilleur de votre Anglais mais ici son tres posts(?) que may(?) vous aidez.
Bienvenue et bonne chance,
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...automatic+gear
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...automatic+gear
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...automatic+gear
Je trouvais mas. Here are two more posts with pictures and two technical pages from good websites.
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...l#post11388452
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...ml#post9364712
May be a useful picture, et Bertrand can probably parlee vous your lingo at least as well as most of us can talk to Brits.
http://members.rennlist.com/v1uhoh/kickdown.htm
http://jenniskens.livedsl.nl/Technic...T_TransAut.htm
Last but not least, I presume you know
http://www.clubporsche928.fr/
Will Hunt
'83S 5-spd. #62013
A true patriot is a lover of his country who rebukes and does not excuse its sins.
Frederick Douglass
The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them.
Patrick Henry
It was our own moral failure and not any accident of chance, that while preserving the appearance of the Republic we lost its reality.
Marcus Tullius Cicero
Last edited by Fogey1; 10-31-2014 at 05:58 AM. Reason: Add some extra stuff.
10-31-2014, 07:37 AM
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à commencer en 1 er vitesse:
1) mettre le levier de vitesse en 2 quand vous êtes arrêté
2) ouvrir le gaz complètement
3) un grand sourire apparaît sur votre visage
1) mettre le levier de vitesse en 2 quand vous êtes arrêté
2) ouvrir le gaz complètement
3) un grand sourire apparaît sur votre visage
Last edited by PHIL928; 10-31-2014 at 07:59 AM.
10-31-2014, 07:55 AM
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Bonjour Philippe,
Je vous reviens ce soir avec, espérons le, la solution à vos problèmes.
Içi, tout se passe en anglais mais je peux traduire pour vous. En tout cas du mieux que je peux.
N'utiliser jamais les traducteurs électroniques. Jamais adéquats.
I'll get back to Philippe tonight and try help him with the translation. Anyway, the best as I can!
Je vous reviens ce soir avec, espérons le, la solution à vos problèmes.
Içi, tout se passe en anglais mais je peux traduire pour vous. En tout cas du mieux que je peux.
N'utiliser jamais les traducteurs électroniques. Jamais adéquats.
I'll get back to Philippe tonight and try help him with the translation. Anyway, the best as I can!
10-31-2014, 07:06 PM
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Désolé pour la traduction automatique !!!
Mais merci de vos réponses.
Ma voiture est une 928 s4 de 1990 automatique.
Je l'ai depuis 2 ans, j'ai fait beaucoup de travaux de remise en état, mais je n'ai jamais arrivé à la faire démarrer en 1 er vitesse.
J'ai essayé de tendre et détendre le câble d'accélérateur qui va à la boite de vitesse,
vidangé la boite de vitesse, remplacé les soupapes et billes dans la boite de vitesse.
shunté l'interrupteur kindow
Mais rien à faire !!!
si vous avez une idée, ça serai cool
Mais merci de vos réponses.
Ma voiture est une 928 s4 de 1990 automatique.
Je l'ai depuis 2 ans, j'ai fait beaucoup de travaux de remise en état, mais je n'ai jamais arrivé à la faire démarrer en 1 er vitesse.
J'ai essayé de tendre et détendre le câble d'accélérateur qui va à la boite de vitesse,
vidangé la boite de vitesse, remplacé les soupapes et billes dans la boite de vitesse.
shunté l'interrupteur kindow
Mais rien à faire !!!
si vous avez une idée, ça serai cool
D'abord, bienvenue sur Rennlist. Le meilleur endroit pour apprendre sur la 928. Je suis membre depuis 8 ans et j'apprends encore à tous les jours!
J'adore le site!
Je ne suis pas expert en transmission mais je peux vous aider en traduisant ce que nos membres aurons à vous dire. Si vous êtes d'accord bien sûr.
Alors, allons-y!
Guys,
I'll try to help Philippe by translating his French post.
Of course, my English is not perfect (sorry about that) but I'll do my best.
So, here we go.
Sorry for the electronic translation!!!
Thanks for your posts.
My car is a 1990 S4 automatic.
I have the car since two years ago and made a lot of due maintenance but never been able to make the car start in firs gear.
I tried to tight and slack the cable that goes to the transmission, changed the oil, change the valves (?) and the ball bearings (?) in the transmission.
By-passed the kick down switch without any success!!!
It would be cool if you could help me.
10-31-2014, 07:19 PM
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Philippe,
Comme SteveG mentionne, avez-vous vérifié le relais XVII (kick down)?
Vous pouvez le "by-passer" pour le vérifier. 87 à 30.
Steve mentionne également que l'intérupteur noir peut avoir besoin d'être changé.
Je ne peux vous dire ce que cet intérupteur fait par contre!
SteveG,
I asked Philippe few things regarding your post #3.
Comme SteveG mentionne, avez-vous vérifié le relais XVII (kick down)?
Vous pouvez le "by-passer" pour le vérifier. 87 à 30.
Steve mentionne également que l'intérupteur noir peut avoir besoin d'être changé.
Je ne peux vous dire ce que cet intérupteur fait par contre!
SteveG,
I asked Philippe few things regarding your post #3.
Last edited by Bertrand Daoust; 10-31-2014 at 07:50 PM.
10-31-2014, 07:29 PM
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It has been a long time since my high school French exam. It is the vacuum modulator. It receives vacuum from the engine and needs to hold vacuum. Check if the rubber cap is air tight and if it holds vacuum.
