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Old 10-24-2014, 04:22 PM
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Think I might have finally found a decent substitution for the tie rod end boot problem. Like many here, I have had torn ball joint boots prompting replacement of the entire unit as well as an alignment. My tie rod ends are tight. My inner tie rod ball joints are also sound.

I also happen to have a set of new boots on the shelf for a restoration in the stall next the 83 928s. They looked to be basically the same size and shape as the rotten boots so I measured them. The 928s small ID was about 15mm and outer was 28mm. The Moss motors PN 263-400 boots were 12mm x 26mm. They are only about $3 for the pair so I am giving them a shot.

old split boot halves on left, Moss boot on right

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They installed really quite easily. Both bottom and top clips installed on the MGB boot as if the boot was made for this purpose. You read that right. The boots I installed were made for any year MGB. Will report if there are any problems.

A big thank you to all the folks who contribute knowledge and advice here. I have found the information here indispensable since picking up the 928. I hope this experiment works and helps someone out.
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This would be awesome if you give it the thumbs up after some driving.
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Deal. I'll have to give it a little time and see.

The only other spec I wanted to see was to measure the shaft on the MGB tie rod to compare to the 928.
I'll post result for those interested.

Roger,
My son and I are hoping to make it up to breakfast sometime. You can get your own look at this if you want. Thanks for all the parts!

J Van Every
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But, wait. Aren't British rubber parts specifically designed to let oil out and let water in?
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Originally Posted by ROG100
This would be awesome if you give it the thumbs up after some driving.
Roger,
did the part no's I sent through or a generic boot not work???

Myles
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Originally Posted by rotenDrachen
Deal. I'll have to give it a little time and see.

The only other spec I wanted to see was to measure the shaft on the MGB tie rod to compare to the 928.
I'll post result for those interested.

Roger,
My son and I are hoping to make it up to breakfast sometime. You can get your own look at this if you want. Thanks for all the parts!

J Van Every
Please do bring some up. I just pulled some ends that we can put them on to test. I'd be happy to give this a try.
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The MGB tie rod comes to about 14mm at the small diameter of the boot. That makes the MG boot made for an application within a few mm or so at both ends.
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Originally Posted by karl ruiter
But, wait. Aren't British rubber parts specifically designed to let oil out and let water in?
Where the water and oil ends up remains to be seen...
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Roger,
Did the part no's I sent through or a generic boot not work???
Myles
Hi Myles - I am sure they would work but the problem was supply here in the States. The company in Korea wanted a minimum order of 1000 units.
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Originally Posted by SeanR
Please do bring some up. I just pulled some ends that we can put them on to test. I'd be happy to give this a try.
I've got one extra. When's breakfast?
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Interesting alternative, hope it works.., found this link ( Moss brothers Europe ) and they list that part, least I think it,s that one. Stand to be corrected.

http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/Vi...0&SortOrder=69

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Originally Posted by 9two8
Interesting alternative, hope it works.., found this link ( Moss brothers Europe ) and they list that part, least I think it,s that one. Stand to be corrected.

http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/Vi...0&SortOrder=69

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That page refers to morris minor parts. I have no idea if that part is appropriate. For what I am testing, please refer to this page of Moss Europe:
http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/Vi...ateIndexID=455
see item #46, MG part number 17H3501

The MG Owners Club (MGOC) in Cambridgeshire UK
http://www.mgocspares.co.uk/acatalog...__MGB__47.html also use the original MG part number system and the boot is part number 17H3501, item #92. They have a really neat shop in Swavesey by the way. V8 MGBs like they were of the showroom floor.

shipping would be cheaper to US from Moss USA:
http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewP...tOrder=250#top
part number 263-400, see item #16

or Victoria British under part number 0-196
http://www.victoriabritish.com/icata....aspx?Page=122
see item #11

I cannot vouch to the quality of any supplier except Moss USA where I obtained the test boots I'm using. They seem pretty well made but only time can tell if they will stand up. They were on the shelf for a year or so and on the 928 for only a few days now
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Darn, just ordered the tie-rod ends with boots as mine were blown. Will definitely want to hear if these hold up after a couple years. Would be a great alternative.
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[QUOTE=rotenDrachen;11751763]That page refers to morris minor parts. I have no idea if that part is appropriate. For what I am testing, please refer to this page of Moss Europe:
http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/Vi...ateIndexID=455
see item #46, MG part number 17H3501

. ..., sorry my bad !, of course that is the link I meant to post. It,s also listed for the BGT V8.
17H3501
http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/Vi...ortOrder=6#top

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It appears the testing of this boot on the '83 may be cut to two weeks. Hit a deer and it looks like the car may be totaled. Boot performed perfectly for this short time though.

Anyone got a cow catcher for an early 928?


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